Last post Nov 19, 2006 06:17 PM by ziemekb
May 29, 2006 04:42 AM|LeighR|LINK
Does any one know of a commercial web control panel that I could use on a small deployment of HMC3.0? Ensim is too expensive even the one from equest is too expensive I'm looking in the region of £1500-2000 solution?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Jun 01, 2006 05:52 AM|EdwardV|LINK
Well I think Ensim is in the picture again! They have a new release Ensim Unify Express
that is targeted to small setups. It comes in two flavors, one for Web Hosting (including
DNN provisioning!) and one for Hosted Exchange.
To good thing here is that the initial setup fee is waived for a limited time!!!
Take a look at http://www.ensim.com/products/express/wwh_promo.html
If you want any help or demonstrations let me know ;-) And no I don't work for Ensim.
Jun 02, 2006 01:05 AM|Ilya_f|LINK
I’ve reviewed its feature & benefits (http://www.ensim.com/products/express/benefits.html) quickly.
Could you tell me:
Does it rely on MPS? Will it work well with objects created with MPS Sample CP or objects created with sample scripts provided with solution?
Jun 02, 2006 01:43 AM|EdwardV|LINK
Jun 03, 2006 10:27 AM|rneubauer|LINK
I spoke with a Sales Rep from Ensim about their Unify Express solution. They tell you there is no upfront cost, but it is actually buy one, get one free. The HMC Solution also requires the WBH as well. I have a serious issue with their licensing model. They
want their cake, but want to eat it too. They charge $5000 upfront for the code. Then you have to pay 20% per year for Maintenance, as well as a minimum of $1000 per month up to about 1000 users, then it goes up from there. Are they selling software as a service,
or selling it as a solution for a one-time fee and yearly maintenance. Seems like they are selling it to you as both. If there was no upfront fee, and it was a pay per user, then there would be a lot more hoster using their solution. I understand that there
area lot of developmental costs to building out and maintaining this solution, but I have a problem with the "get you coming, get you going" licensing model. they say they are partnered with Microsoft on the hosting side of things, why don't they have a licensing
model that is similar to Microsoft's licensing model. I think it is a great model for Hosters of any sort.
Jun 04, 2006 01:50 AM|Conrad|LINK
I guess it's time to throw my hat in the ring now...
We have just finished the development of the eQuest Automation Framework 3.6 (EAF) which includes leveraging the new features of HMC 3.5 plus the Feature Pack. We also added support for "Trial Services" which allows an anonymous user to sign up for an account,
but only allowed to use the service for a Hoster defined amount of time at which point the account can be converted to a full customer or removed from the system.
Much of what we're talking about here on the this thread is about cost. Our model at Planet (aka eQuest) is about services with the customers. Most customers need our help with deploying a
new HMC enviroinment, migration/upgrade to HMC (From MPS 1.0, manual provisioning, and yes Ensim), integrating HMC with their back office applications,
Solution Training/Knowledge Transfer and more. With that said, we have invested quite a bit in the EAF to provide an ASP.NET version of a control panel that is 100% compatible and integrated with the Microsoft
solution for HMC. It's a one time fee that includes deployment, we provide a private online forum for support, and we also offer the ability to pay extra for the entire source code!
Since we just getting this product out the door, I (since I'm responsible for it) have yet to update the content on our website, but I can say that we have adjusted our packaging and pricing to be very flexible and up front. Pay once and you don't need
to pay again (unless you want additional support services, customization, training, upgrades, etc.). No hidden fees!
Of course not every option is right for every person, so feel free to select something that fits your need from a cost, business, and/or technical perspective.
As for the Control Panel vendors in the space for HMC, here is my middle of the night off of the top of my head list:
I hope this helps you out. If you'd like to talk more about the EAF, please shoot me an email!
Nov 19, 2006 06:17 PM|ziemekb|LINK
Also Sphera http://www.sphera.com has own MPS-based solution for provisioning.