Last post Dec 23, 2013 11:42 PM by XIII
Jul 31, 2013 06:04 PM|maximummike|LINK
My posts are always deleted. The moderator claims that I am enguaging in Necro-Posting. That is posting to an old thread. If Necro-Posting is so bad then why not delete the entire thread or eliminate the possibility to reply to the thread. You preserve
old threads that were never adequately answered, but delete the new ideas. Considering that Bing is bringing up the old posts at the top of the search results, it would seem that they are not dead after all. There seems to be a disconect between the people
that made the site and the people that moderate it.
Why are old posts still important? Many of us work at real jobs where we might stil have old technology with old problems that still need attention. I have to sometimes work with SQL server 2000 and old apps writen in classic asp or an early version of
asp.net. It is not my desire to have to use old technology, but my employer won't upgrade some of our systems until they break or cannot be used on our hardware. The old posts are a vital source of information for us. How many posts get deleted everyday
for Necro-Posting? We are simply posting new ideas to old problems.
Jul 31, 2013 06:15 PM|AidyF|LINK
Are you posting to answer these threads? Or to ask additional points? If it is the former, then the person the info is for is probably not around to benefit from your post anyway, or the issue will be resolved by now one way or another, and it is bringing
to the top threads that no-one is taking an active interest in.
Jul 31, 2013 07:00 PM|mbanavige|LINK
If Necro-Posting is so bad then why not delete the entire thread or eliminate the possibility to reply to the thread.
Not sure how deleting an entire thread could be compared to discouraging necro-posting.
You preserve old threads that were never adequately answered, but delete the new ideas.
You say that the thread was never adequately answered, but in looking at your recently deleted necro-post, i do not agree with that. you recently replied to
this 3 year old thread. That thread has posts marked as answers and the OP also replied to that thread to indicate the problem he'd originally created it for was resolved. Check page 2 for his post made in 2010 with the remark "@ Slewey: Thanks for
hte Help that worked. "
The "new idea" you'd posted to that old thread consisted of this in its entirety:
The idea of a hidden textbox with a display style initially set to none had been posted to that thread and discussed years ago (check page 1 of the thread). So i wouldn't consider it a new idea in the context of that thread.
Aug 02, 2013 06:01 PM|maximummike|LINK
I am not really interested in the points. I am not sure why getting points is so important to people if the points don't really mean anything. I worked in a Novell shop for 14 years before we moved to Microsoft. I still get replies to things that I posted
on Novell's forums there over 5 years ago. It usually does not benefit me, but perhaps someone else. It certainly does not bother me that they posted to my old thread. I don't remember any type of points being given for answering questions there.
Yahoo answers and a few other sites have the concept of letting the person that asked the question decide when it has been answered and to close out the thread so nothing else can be added. I am just saying that there are multple ways to discourage posting
to old threads rather than consuming a huge amount of the moderator's time on a big site.
Aug 03, 2013 05:13 PM|Mikesdotnetting|LINK
I am just saying that there are multple ways to discourage posting to old threads rather than consuming a huge amount of the moderator's time on a big site.
Necro-posting is not a huge consumer of time here. There isn't a lot of it happening. However, when it does, it tends to result in other members also adding replies to an old thread - because they see an active thread but don't look at the OP date. That
really is a waste of time, and deflects those members from helping others with
It has been suggested more than once that older resolved threads become automatically locked after a certain period. I tend to agree with that suggestion, but so far, there have been no signs of the idea being formally adopted by the site owners.
Aug 06, 2013 02:46 AM|XIII|LINK
Yahoo answers and a few other sites have the concept of letting the person that asked the question decide when it has been answered and to close out the thread so nothing else can be added.
That's also an interesting approach. If it got implemented I would be tempted to say that the moderation team would simply see it in the queues like now as well. Members of old posts perhaps don't come here anymore so can't decide on it. People who replied
get frustrated because they don't see their post appearing and start calling in for help either way they know so we have to intervene anyway in the end as well.
Aug 14, 2013 06:05 AM|Afzaal.Ahmad.Zeeshan|LINK
Basically its not an issue. I myself have posted alot of replies to some posts which were like made in 2010 or even 2007!
The issue that the moderators delete the post is because of the answer being re-posted! Or the answer being off the track! You can learn about the basic and the main flagging options when you try to flag one.
However I saw, your deleted posts where 3 and 16 replies counted! That counts 8 still posted there! So I don't think that every post is deleted! No offence, But the post creator might not want any new comments or replies!
Nov 12, 2013 01:53 PM|mkamoski2|LINK
Begging your pardon, but I do not understand your points...
>>> Are you posting to answer these threads?... then the person the info is for is probably not around to benefit from your post anyway
You have not way of knowing that folks are gone. And if they are so what? What does that have to do with the advancement and catalog of human knowledge? This is a historical source, not unlike Wikipedia. Topics in such user-generated storage areas ought
never be closed to new, relevant, applicable data. Furthermore, posts are not just for 1 person but the community at-large, and also for future members who have not even arrived yet. There is no way to tell what people will search for in the future. Why not
let the record be as complete as possible. Sure, off-topic stuff should be out, new-topic stuff should be out, but related-stuff should stay. Post-prominence should be factored perhaps by both a single recent entries in a given topic and also by number of
fairly recent entries, so a single new post in an otherwise mainly inactive old thread would not make it leap to the top of the list by virture of a single new post. Details could be worked out to make it more equitable and to discourage post-bumping.
>>> or the issue will be resolved by now one way or another
...plus, given that the community at-large generally will say things like "this question has already been asked" it makes sense to group all replies under the single "question" when possible. Perhaps.
I am just saying this "policy" might need rethinking, or perhaps community policing by voting with "report as necro", or something like that.
Just an idea.
(But, yes, of course, throw out the real trash posts as-needed.)
-- Mark Kamoski
Nov 12, 2013 04:03 PM|Boris Pazin|LINK
On some other forums, this problem is solved on a way that topic becomes locked after certain period of inactivity.
If nobody answers for a, let say 2 weeks, then topic is automatically locked and nobody can add new answers.
Personally, I believe that it's ok to add new view of old problem. But, if it is not acceptable for administration then automatic locking could be neat solution.
Dec 23, 2013 12:36 PM|wavemaster|LINK
I also see a benefit in necro-posting.
An answer to an old thread may not benefit the asker, however, searching through threads and seeing a variety of answers (some old, some new) is a benefit. At least for those who have the patience to figure out the search.
Dec 23, 2013 11:42 PM|XIII|LINK
At least for those who have the patience to figure out the search.
Which unfortunately not a lot of people have. However if you see a solution for a recurring problem then make up a nice write up about it and put it in the Tips & Tricks forum.