I dont know why I am writing this thread.. But A few days I have made some suggestions for this site which I dont know is going to be implemented or not.. Here is the link for that:
Actually MVPs are awarded i guess basically for the contribution in MSDN or Technet forums then what is the result of our contribution??
I think you guessed wrong here. I hardly contributed on technet and MSDN myself. I got the MVP status through my hard work on these forums solely even before there was something of a recognition points system. Two years ago the program of Community Contributer
started where the people who earned it mostly also only put their time/effort into the forums over here.
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I think you guessed wrong here. I hardly contributed on technet and MSDN myself. I got the MVP status through my hard work on these forums solely even before there was something of a recognition points system. Two years ago the program of Community Contributer
started where the people who earned it mostly also only put their time/effort into the forums over here.
Kris I agree with you but have u seen the this years list of MVP.. I guess there are hardly any person from our forums who is awarded for the contribution @ asp.net .. Correct Me if I am wrong..
I am not arguing; I am suggesting the idea of a recognition system @ asp.net forums...
I guess there are hardly any person from our forums who is awarded for the contribution @ asp.net .. Correct Me if I am wrong..
The indications I got over the past years ist hat the Community Contribute Award was put in place to reward people being busy on forums only. Note that I have been busy on these forums for 5+ years before I got noticed and awarded as an MVP.
The only advice I can give you that I once gave to someone from India who asked me via pm and became an MVP 2 years later (and thanked me for the advice): do your best, go to the limit, then get beyond that.
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Sorry for that. But I dont want to became a MVP. If I become one I would not be like I am now..I like helping People and that is my reward.
I just suggested this to make people interested in this forum. If they get a goal they are gonna work hard for it.. That is why I suggested so.. Thanks for your suggestion Kris.
The indications I got over the past years ist hat the Community Contribute Award was put in place to reward people being busy on forums only.
As i know this year they did not include anyone from forums.asp.net in their Awardee list. MCC is busy with MSDN, TechNet, SevenForums, Office365 Forums, Dell TechCenter, Microsoft Dynamics and SmartPhoneGurus.com etc but not ASP.NET Forums.
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Note that I have been busy on these forums for 5+ years before I got noticed and awarded as an MVP.
You are a hero for forums.asp.net. Top Contributor in Community..
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The only advice I can give you that I once gave to someone from India who asked me via pm and became an MVP 2 years later (and thanked me for the advice): do your best, go to the limit, then get beyond that.
The indications I got over the past years ist hat the Community Contribute Award was put in place to reward people being busy on forums only.
As i know this year they did not include anyone from forums.asp.net in their Awardee list. MCC is busy with MSDN, TechNet, SevenForums, Office365 Forums, Dell TechCenter, Microsoft Dynamics and SmartPhoneGurus.com etc but not ASP.NET Forums.
This will change. The Microsoft Community Contributor program went through a complete revamp, and in the short term dropped our site from award recognition. This week we met with the program owner, and we will be working with the MCC team to award active
ASP.NET and IIS.NET site members. We hope to have this completed by the April 2013 award cycle.
So, to answer geniusvishal's original question, the MCC badge will be awarded to recognize the contributions of our site members. This is a quarterly recognition and is targeted to start for the ASP.NET site in April 2013.
This will change. The Microsoft Community Contributor program went through a complete revamp, and in the short term dropped our site from award recognition. This week we met with the program owner, and we will be working with the MCC team to award active
ASP.NET and IIS.NET site members. We hope to have this completed by the April 2013 award cycle.
So, to answer geniusvishal's original question, the MCC badge will be awarded to recognize the contributions of our site members. This is a quarterly recognition and is targeted to start for the ASP.NET site in April 2013.
I dont think only the point system is enough for the hard work we do...
I agree. I think a statue built in my honour is the least they could do :) Not sure what kind of "recognition" you want, especially if you say you don't want to be an MVP.
Personally I think points should be awarded by a third-party who reviews threads and allocates them as deserved. So many posters on here just google what the rough issue is and post the top 3 or 5 links without really understanding the problem, and often
the links are of no relevance. I've even seen links posted to 10 year old sites where the problem is solved in classic ASP. I could probably write a bot that just picks out keywords, googles them and posts some links and what my points soar.
I'm afraid I no longer use this forum due to the new point allocation system.
I agree. I think a statue built in my honour is the least they could do :) Not sure what kind of "recognition" you want, especially if you say you don't want to be an MVP.
No Need for Statue Aidy I was just Querying about the reward System for ASP.Net Forums for the contributions made by the Members.. For Example Everyone devotes some time to expect some result.. Helping People out is a good thing.. Sharing Knowledge is good
as well but there should be some recognition out there too. MCC was not given for ASP.net forums for the past 2 years i guess. You will find very few MVP for the contributions in asp.net forums. So You see this is the difference.
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Personally I think points should be awarded by a third-party who reviews threads and allocates them as deserved. So many posters on here just google what the rough issue is and post the top 3 or 5 links without really understanding the problem, and often the
links are of no relevance. I've even seen links posted to 10 year old sites where the problem is solved in classic ASP. I could probably write a bot that just picks out keywords, googles them and posts some links and what my points soar.
Thank You aidy for your suggestion. But Let me point out: Everyone is not the same over here.. There are members over here who really care about the problem of the O.P. and try to solve their problem not only by posting links but by replicating their problem
in their system as well; Provided that the O.P. provided the sample code or his unsuccessful attempt.. So You see It is not possible for anyone to give complete solution of a problem. We can try to guide the O.P. to the best possible solution;
If possible try to give sample code as well.. So Its not mere google Search. People out there really devote their time and Knowledge to help the community as much as possible.
So many posters on here just google what the rough issue is and post the top 3 or 5 links without really understanding the problem, and often the links are of no relevance. I've even seen links posted to 10 year old sites where the problem is solved in classic
ASP.
Thanks to our moderation team in asp.net forums, they do a really hard work on keeping the forums clean. They don't usually allow necropost here. So you are welcome to alert the moderation team if you see such a post.
But, everyone here have right to 'speak' regardless of their knowledge level. May be they will just find the links from a search engine and post them for 2 points. But it's their problem and we should really not worry about it unless it badly affect for
the forum (Sometimes Google/Bing links can be the answer).
From my experience what I've found is, most of the people who don't really care to share their knowledge and who are in to the 'game' of earning points, loose their interest soon. None of the people who have higher points here gain it by simply providing
links. If someone do that, we really should appreciate him/her for spending time on doing something with no interest on the subject. I've seen many people (Check the first few pages of Hall Of Fame) who spend time composing valuable replies so I disagree to
the fact that you are saying many of the people here post links to gain points.
AidyF
I could probably write a bot that just picks out keywords, googles them and posts some links and what my points soar.
And within no time, you will be banned from the form. What we can see is there are people who post questions and there are people who answer for them. But there is an high quality underlying moderation process going on. Moderatoin team keeps eye on such
people and ban them from the forum.
None of the people who have higher points here gain it by simply providing links. If someone do that, we really should appreciate him/her for spending time on doing something with no interest on the subject. I've seen many people (Check the first few pages
of Hall Of Fame) who spend time composing valuable replies so I disagree to the fact that you are saying most of the people here post links to gain points.
I didn't say "most", I said "so many" and I stand by that observation. The classic is when someone has a problem with an error message they're getting from their SMTP server when sending an email and the thread will be 10 posts that are nothing but links
to examples of how you send email from .net. Rather than reading and understanding the actual problem people just get the gist (oh it's an email issue), carpet-bomb some links and hope one hits. There is a thread even from today where the same link has been
posted by multiple people, probably because it's the first hit on google. It doesn't affect me per se, but I imagine it can sometimes frustrate people who start threads. As a bare minimum I'd exact that ther person has at least googled their issue, they
don't need to come here for other people to google it too.
I'm afraid I no longer use this forum due to the new point allocation system.
I didn't say "most", I said "so many" and I stand by that observation. The classic is when someone has a problem with an error message they're getting from their SMTP server when sending an email and the thread will be 10 posts that are nothing but links to
examples of how you send email from .net. Rather than reading and understanding the actual problem people just get the gist (oh it's an email issue), carpet-bomb some links and hope one hits. There is a thread even from today where the same link has been
posted by multiple people, probably because it's the first hit on google. It doesn't affect me per se, but I imagine it can sometimes frustrate people who start threads. As a bare minimum I'd exact that ther person has at least googled their issue, they
don't need to come here for other people to google it too.
I can understand and totally agree with you in this regard.. Not only this people out there even copy the same links as posted by the previous poster inspite of the fact that the original problem is quite different.. But In my view you cant do too much in
this regard as we dont have control over the mind of the people out there.. All You can do is use the Alert Moderator Button in order to notify the moderators of this site about the issue.. They will do the needful..
I hope it would be better if any member whose title is MVP in MSDN, it would be also shown as MVP or MCC in this place;)
This will likely not be the case. We are working with Dora Chen to have the ASP.NET MVP's consistently recognized on this site, and in the case of MCC, we'd only be showing the badge for those who won the award in this community.
This will likely not be the case. We are working with Dora Chen to have the ASP.NET MVP's consistently recognized on this site, and in the case of MCC, we'd only be showing the badge for those who won the award in this community.
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Dec 12, 2012 12:57 AM|geniusvishal|LINK
Hi All,
I dont know why I am writing this thread.. But A few days I have made some suggestions for this site which I dont know is going to be implemented or not.. Here is the link for that:
http://forums.asp.net/t/1854683.aspx/1?Suggestion+For+this+Site
Anyhow this time I have a better idea why dont we give some recognition to the members who are giving their hardwork in this forum..
I dont think only the point system is enough for the hard work we do... Atleast there should be some recognition system at the site level..
I know their are programs like Microsoft MVP award but hardly know a guy who got MVP for their contribution in this forum...
Actually MVPs are awarded i guess basically for the contribution in MSDN or Technet forums then what is the result of our contribution??
Why there is no recognition for us ??..
Well I dont want any recognition for myself but i just want to share my opinion about the system which I think as biased..
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Dec 12, 2012 01:12 AM|santosh.jagdale|LINK
Yes, I am agree with Visahl. There should be some recognition who are doing hard work to contribute here.
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Dec 12, 2012 02:43 AM|XIII|LINK
Hi,
I think you guessed wrong here. I hardly contributed on technet and MSDN myself. I got the MVP status through my hard work on these forums solely even before there was something of a recognition points system. Two years ago the program of Community Contributer started where the people who earned it mostly also only put their time/effort into the forums over here.
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Dec 12, 2012 03:20 AM|oned_gk|LINK
I am agree, too with Vishal
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Dec 12, 2012 03:50 AM|geniusvishal|LINK
Kris I agree with you but have u seen the this years list of MVP.. I guess there are hardly any person from our forums who is awarded for the contribution @ asp.net .. Correct Me if I am wrong..
I am not arguing; I am suggesting the idea of a recognition system @ asp.net forums...
Thx.
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Dec 12, 2012 04:37 AM|XIII|LINK
Hi,
My name is Kris, Mike is someone else.
The indications I got over the past years ist hat the Community Contribute Award was put in place to reward people being busy on forums only. Note that I have been busy on these forums for 5+ years before I got noticed and awarded as an MVP.
The only advice I can give you that I once gave to someone from India who asked me via pm and became an MVP 2 years later (and thanked me for the advice): do your best, go to the limit, then get beyond that.
Grz, Kris.
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Dec 12, 2012 04:41 AM|geniusvishal|LINK
Sorry for that. But I dont want to became a MVP. If I become one I would not be like I am now..I like helping People and that is my reward.
I just suggested this to make people interested in this forum. If they get a goal they are gonna work hard for it.. That is why I suggested so.. Thanks for your suggestion Kris.
Will Keep Your Words in my Mind. :-)
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Dec 20, 2012 03:39 AM|gabri|LINK
I too agree with vishal
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Feb 23, 2013 08:27 AM|Rajneesh Verma|LINK
As i know this year they did not include anyone from forums.asp.net in their Awardee list. MCC is busy with MSDN, TechNet, SevenForums, Office365 Forums, Dell TechCenter, Microsoft Dynamics and SmartPhoneGurus.com etc but not ASP.NET Forums.
You are a hero for forums.asp.net. Top Contributor in Community..
I strongly agree with you...
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Feb 24, 2013 01:35 PM|tmorton|LINK
This will change. The Microsoft Community Contributor program went through a complete revamp, and in the short term dropped our site from award recognition. This week we met with the program owner, and we will be working with the MCC team to award active ASP.NET and IIS.NET site members. We hope to have this completed by the April 2013 award cycle.
So, to answer geniusvishal's original question, the MCC badge will be awarded to recognize the contributions of our site members. This is a quarterly recognition and is targeted to start for the ASP.NET site in April 2013.
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Feb 25, 2013 12:03 AM|Rajneesh Verma|LINK
Thanks Terri,
I was expecting the same.
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Feb 25, 2013 06:13 AM|AidyF|LINK
I agree. I think a statue built in my honour is the least they could do :) Not sure what kind of "recognition" you want, especially if you say you don't want to be an MVP.
Personally I think points should be awarded by a third-party who reviews threads and allocates them as deserved. So many posters on here just google what the rough issue is and post the top 3 or 5 links without really understanding the problem, and often the links are of no relevance. I've even seen links posted to 10 year old sites where the problem is solved in classic ASP. I could probably write a bot that just picks out keywords, googles them and posts some links and what my points soar.
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Feb 25, 2013 06:38 AM|geniusvishal|LINK
No Need for Statue Aidy I was just Querying about the reward System for ASP.Net Forums for the contributions made by the Members.. For Example Everyone devotes some time to expect some result.. Helping People out is a good thing.. Sharing Knowledge is good as well but there should be some recognition out there too. MCC was not given for ASP.net forums for the past 2 years i guess. You will find very few MVP for the contributions in asp.net forums. So You see this is the difference.
Thank You aidy for your suggestion. But Let me point out: Everyone is not the same over here.. There are members over here who really care about the problem of the O.P. and try to solve their problem not only by posting links but by replicating their problem in their system as well; Provided that the O.P. provided the sample code or his unsuccessful attempt.. So You see It is not possible for anyone to give complete solution of a problem. We can try to guide the O.P. to the best possible solution; If possible try to give sample code as well.. So Its not mere google Search. People out there really devote their time and Knowledge to help the community as much as possible.
Thank You.
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Feb 25, 2013 08:26 AM|Ruchira|LINK
Hello,
Thanks to our moderation team in asp.net forums, they do a really hard work on keeping the forums clean. They don't usually allow necropost here. So you are welcome to alert the moderation team if you see such a post.
But, everyone here have right to 'speak' regardless of their knowledge level. May be they will just find the links from a search engine and post them for 2 points. But it's their problem and we should really not worry about it unless it badly affect for the forum (Sometimes Google/Bing links can be the answer).
From my experience what I've found is, most of the people who don't really care to share their knowledge and who are in to the 'game' of earning points, loose their interest soon. None of the people who have higher points here gain it by simply providing links. If someone do that, we really should appreciate him/her for spending time on doing something with no interest on the subject. I've seen many people (Check the first few pages of Hall Of Fame) who spend time composing valuable replies so I disagree to the fact that you are saying many of the people here post links to gain points.
And within no time, you will be banned from the form. What we can see is there are people who post questions and there are people who answer for them. But there is an high quality underlying moderation process going on. Moderatoin team keeps eye on such people and ban them from the forum.
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Feb 25, 2013 08:49 AM|AidyF|LINK
I didn't say "most", I said "so many" and I stand by that observation. The classic is when someone has a problem with an error message they're getting from their SMTP server when sending an email and the thread will be 10 posts that are nothing but links to examples of how you send email from .net. Rather than reading and understanding the actual problem people just get the gist (oh it's an email issue), carpet-bomb some links and hope one hits. There is a thread even from today where the same link has been posted by multiple people, probably because it's the first hit on google. It doesn't affect me per se, but I imagine it can sometimes frustrate people who start threads. As a bare minimum I'd exact that ther person has at least googled their issue, they don't need to come here for other people to google it too.
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Feb 25, 2013 12:04 PM|geniusvishal|LINK
I can understand and totally agree with you in this regard.. Not only this people out there even copy the same links as posted by the previous poster inspite of the fact that the original problem is quite different.. But In my view you cant do too much in this regard as we dont have control over the mind of the people out there.. All You can do is use the Alert Moderator Button in order to notify the moderators of this site about the issue.. They will do the needful..
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Feb 27, 2013 06:59 AM|ToughMan|LINK
Greate!
I hope it would be better if any member whose title is MVP in MSDN, it would be also shown as MVP or MCC in this place;)
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Feb 27, 2013 08:07 AM|tmorton|LINK
This will likely not be the case. We are working with Dora Chen to have the ASP.NET MVP's consistently recognized on this site, and in the case of MCC, we'd only be showing the badge for those who won the award in this community.
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Feb 27, 2013 08:28 PM|ToughMan|LINK
I see……OK, never mind!
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