Last post Jun 10, 2010 06:32 PM by js06
Nov 07, 2009 12:01 PM|roy|LINK
I am just getting started with asp.net, and was looking for an inexpensive hosting to play around with. What are your thoughts on godaddy?
Nov 07, 2009 12:17 PM|pyu.agrawal|LINK
They are a good hosting provider, except that they do not allow applications to be hosted with "FullTrust" (the only reason for not using GoDaddy). I prefer
Nov 07, 2009 12:26 PM|TATWORTH|LINK
What are your thoughts on godaddy?
I seem to see more negative comments about GoDaddy than any other hoster. If you go with GoDaddy, please:
Nov 07, 2009 12:57 PM|HostingASPNet|LINK
It depends what you will host. There are many factors that you should consider when choosing ASP.NET hosting provider like - supporting technologies, location, support, uptime, disk space, bandwidth, price etc...
Nov 08, 2009 07:04 PM|js06|LINK
i just came back to the forum with the purpose of asking if anyone can recommend a good host for asp.net in windows hosting.
i have godaddy at the moment and have had them for a little over 1.5 years now. overall i have been fairly satisfied.
however, the reason i am here looking for a new host are the following:
took me many hours over the phone with them over a period of a few weeks and getting help in the forum here to find out that when i upload a changed page to their server, their system does not pick up the change to recompile a web application. really this
is not a bid deal because as long as you replace the files in the bin folder of the application then the server will see the change. and as long as you publish using visual studio which i assume updates the bin folder files, it will update the changes as
the part that got me was how long it took and only one out many of their support techs was able to understand what was happening. the one tech was good even though he didn't give me enough info to fix it, i ended up figuring out what he was talking about
later on. and more frustrating is how many times i was told the problem was on my end and not theirs. they kept insisting there was a problem in my code.
ok so that issue i got sorted out and i let it go since i could atleast do what i needed to.
so now, after about 2 weeks working on some site changes and everything working fine on my localhost, i upload and the dropdown menus do not show when hovering with the mouse. they show but not correctly and are not useable. so their first response to
me is it's on my end. most likely IE8. they don't use internet explorer 8 so they can't tell me anything about it. the menus actually work on a variety of other computers using different OS and IE versions. but i end up traking the issue with the help
of some vb forum members, to the compatiblibity view settings in IE8. so that fixed it. and again that is fine because it works now. and it wasn't a problem on their side. so i let that go.
but in the process of my changes i require some new database changes for everything to work. just a new table and some columns in it. no big deal. never had a problem before in this area. it's all done in their hosting control center on their website
through my account after i log in. so while adding the columns to the table i need 2 with a datatype of nvarchar, but i need the length set to max. so they have a type of nvarchar and nvarcharmax to choose from. well, when you select max, it accepts it
but when you save the change it converts it automatically to nvarchar with a length of 1.
so i call them up to find out why i can't use a selection that their system offers. and they have no answer for it. the max characters you can have with nvarchar is 4000, so in order for me to do what i need/want, i would have to use a system of 12 columns
for one. i would have to programatically handle the different columns for one textbox.
so can i do that? yes, i can. but why can they not tell me why their system does not allow me to select and use a datatype they have setup on their system. it has absolutely nothing to do with my end. i have to do it through their system.
that is a pain but for now i can live with it.
so i end up looking through some of the information they have on their site to see what i can find out for myself. and i came across some information about databases. it explains about their limits for size and connections. they only allow 250 mb max
size for the database. ok, i can live with that. they allow 100 connections at a time. and this part, well i realize over the time i have been with them i have been getting some strange errors about the connection being open or closing while trying to open
the connection again. and i kept thinking that was strange because i use a new connection every time. and i guess what has been happening after all, is the max connections is reached and then i am stuck at 100. i am not very technical when it comes to how
the connections are handled but i would assume that one call per connection would not result in that connectoin with an error trying to access it again while it is closing.
so in the end,
they don't have any answers for me when i have trouble. always say it's on my side. (a scripting issue)
their techs sound more like customer service reps. (the last guy was very nice but not knowledgeable about database. they couldn't transer me to anyone who knew more either.
their system doesn't work correctly.
very strong limits on database
after this last round of issues, i am definetely looking for a new host. i have a few months before my contract is up so that gives me some time to look around.
i don't want to say you shouldn't use them but as a developer, i don't recommend it. if you just need a simple website, then no problem, they are great overall. but if you need to really develop some nice full featured data website and you expect to have
a good deal of traffic, i would recommend you look elsewhere.
hope this helps
Nov 09, 2009 03:18 AM|TATWORTH|LINK
Thank you for sharing the problems you have had hosting with GoDaddy. Some suggestions:
Nov 09, 2009 04:05 AM|TATWORTH|LINK
You can get FXCOP 1.36
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Nov 09, 2009 08:08 AMemail@example.com|LINK
GoDaddy is a good, inexpensive host. Provided you can live with their restrictions, they are fine. Keep in mind that they are not a hosting service for developers, and they don't cater to those needing support in programming.
Nov 09, 2009 08:50 AM|js06|LINK
Thanks for the info. i will definetely look and see if i am missing any dispose calls. i guess it is my fault for assuming if they use a full version of sql server that it would have unlimited connections. i am afraid though, that even disposing of connections,
if that is an issue at all, will only get me so far. there have had close to 700 sessions at one time. that is rare but my memberships increase everyday and it won't be long before godaddy cannot work for me at all.
i try to keep that in mind with them, that they are not support for developers but i would never be satisfied with a host who cannot tell you why something that they control does not work. not being able to tell me why their system automatically changes
a column to a different datatype is just not going to cut it. with everything i have found over the year or so about them, i would not be surprised if that is on purpose. i ask myself why would they do that, but why do they do anything they do. probably
saves them traffic per site. save a little bandwidth here, a little there, it adds up. but atleast tell me straight out why i can't do something or why it doesn't work. or maybe they just don't know.
originally, my first host was startlogic. and they were good, but the reason i left is because i had the same issue where there system would not pick up changes either. for nearly a year i had that issue. at that time i had only been using frontpage because
i was brand new to web, period. they never had any answer for me. but they always tried their best to find something when i called. they never once blamed it on me. after the first issue i had with godaddy for the changes, i wish i had not left startlogic
because i had a fix for it. unfortunately i stayed with godaddy an additional year and now i find out that i should have went back to startlogic. but i will have to do some heavy research before going back to them or a new host. i really need a host that
understand developers and is not just a "place which holds your files for you".
Nov 09, 2009 09:11 AM|TATWORTH|LINK
On behalf of a client, I have used RackSpace and the service was excellent!
Nov 09, 2009 10:30 AMfirstname.lastname@example.org|LINK
i try to keep that in mind with them, that they are not support for developers but i would never be satisfied with a host who cannot tell you why something that they control does not work.
My response had been to the original poster. As a response for your issues, you might check Orcsweb, they can tell you just about anything you never wanted to know about their system. :)
Nov 09, 2009 11:13 AM|js06|LINK
Yeah, i know. i was just thinking out loud.
i will check out orcsweb and rackspace
Nov 09, 2009 04:47 PM|roy|LINK
Thx for all your info, at the present tme I have a php site at Crystal tech, and their support is excellent, they also have asp.net, but the price is a quite a bit higher, so the old story you only get what you pay for I guess, I will check out rackspace
and others that you have mentioned. thx again
Nov 09, 2009 07:05 PM|iration|LINK
I think Discountasp.net and Maximumasp are both worth checking out as well. They are geared more towards ASP.NET developers.
Nov 09, 2009 11:03 PM|Mellanie|LINK
Please read their FAQ and Terms before you purchase on them. There are many asp.net hosting on the net, you should carefully :)
Nov 10, 2009 01:41 AM|IgorB|LINK
I have no problems with GoDaddy at all. What you get for what you pay - is amazing and unmatched by anybody. You can also upgrade your plan for a couple more dollars to get unlimited bandwith. It's true - customer service does not have a lot of thechnical
knowledge, but I've never expected the customer service to have it in the first place. It's better come to this forum with asp questions.
What's important is: GoDaddy provides ASP.NET 3.5 SP1 Hosting and IIS7 MSSQL Server 2005 in the most inexpensive way possible - dirt cheap! At the same time, my website and my database have never been down and I've never had any downtime issues - it works
like clock. State of the art security, multiple protection and backing up on miltiple servers.
When somebody said about 100 multiple connections at the time - you have to realize, that it takes just milliseconds for SQL Server to open connection for aspx page and immediately close it! You have to have hundreds of thousands of visitors for this to
happen, that more than 100 connections have to open in the same millisecond (!) - you have a better chance to win a lottery. If you have such huge traffic on your site - then you definitely have to go to a dedicated server - then you probably have enough money,
since your site has such huge traffic.
I recomend GoDaddy...
Nov 10, 2009 02:59 AM|urstop|LINK
I have hosted couple of sites for my clients at GoDaddy. Personally I would not recommend them for ASP.NET hosting, becuase of the medium trust restrictions and restrictions on the Email settings etc. Also their support is not at any level close to what
is being offered by many other .NET hosting providers. Unless your client is very particular about spending couple of extra bucks for a good hosting, I would not go for GoDaddy.
Nov 10, 2009 07:53 AMemail@example.com|LINK
but the price is a quite a bit higher
If you think Crystal Tech has high ASP.NET host prices, skip Orcsweb.
Nov 10, 2009 09:24 AM|js06|LINK
i agree with you that godaddy is not a bad host. for the price, yes, they are very good if you want a cheap host. it is true that you get what you pay for.
i agree that "Customer Service" wouldn't be expected to have "Technical" knowlegde but when you specifically are talking those who say they are "Technical: support i would expect they have atleast some "Technical" knowledge.
and no i wouldn't expect them to be able to debug my code but i would expect them to be able to tell me why there system won't allow me to choose a column datatype that they offer. especailly when it has to be done on their system and i have no control
as far as the connections are concernec, it is not that difficult to rack up 100 connections. i don't have a huge amount of traffic at one time, it is very spreadout but i have calls to the database as soon as each session starts. i also do some of my
own statistics stored in the database. so one session can rack up a few connections pretty quick. occassionally you multiply that by quite a few visitors and members and it goes quick.
now overall i have only had the connection errors every once in a while. unfortunately with the reliability of computers today i expect to not get them. it's just my opinioin that i should not have to worry about working inside 100 connections. but that
is not their fault. it's mine for not doing better research and assuming.
i guess what i expected with godaddy is that their technical people would be more like what you would find at even home depot. they don't hire customer service people to help you. they hire people who are experienced in the department they work in. if
you need draperies they hire someone who has experience there. if you need plumbing or electrical, those people are knowledgeable and can give you advice on what to buy and how to fix things.
it would be like me hiring a customer service rep for my clients to talk to who has no knowledge of the software. the rep can tell them "it must be your computer, cause it works here". then the client can think to themselves "they don't help me, but they
that just doesn't cut it.
these are just my thoughts on it so don't take it personal. i am just talking about my experience and what i expect as a developer. if you offer technical services i would expect you to have technical knowledge.
i don't mind spending more money to get a good host. and the reason for going with godaddy was not because they were cheap either. i paid more there than i did with startlogic. and my second year with godaddy i upgraded to an even higher plan because
i expected my bandwidth to increase. but the unfortunate side is that spending $50 to $100 per month or more on dedicated hosting or semi dedicated is just not worth it for something so small as needing more connections. and researching some of the other
host mentioned in here, i have seen they offer unilimited connections for close to what godaddy offers per month. and take it from me, if you have a lot of traffic, it doesn't mean your site makes a lot of money. everything on my site is free and i only
take in donations. which barely cover what it covers what it cost me to have it hosted. i don't have the website to generate money specifically anyway. but i do expect it to work correctly for my members. later on i do expect to need dedicated hosting
as my traffic does increase everyday. when it reaches a certain point i will be selling more advertising and dedicated hosting will be worth paying for.
so far, from the suggestions i have seen here and where else i have looked, i am leaning towards crystal tech or discountasp. discountasp looks like they might be a really good technical host. someone dedicated to asp.net is just what i need. have to
see what happens.
as i said before, if you want a cheap host, then go with godaddy. if you want a host which will be dedicated to helping you as a developer with good technical knowledge of how their products work with your development, then go somewhere else. i am sure
part of godaddy problem is that they have so many accounts. having a large client base just makes you a number and not a client. and if they lose you, it really won't hurt them any. there's probably 100 more that will sign up when i leave. i'm not worth
Nov 10, 2009 09:29 AM|TATWORTH|LINK
>I am leaning towards crystal tech or discountasp. discountasp looks like they might be a really good technical host. someone dedicated to asp.net is just what I need.
Please post in this section of the forum, some feedback about your new hoster once you are settled there.
Nov 12, 2009 09:24 AM|js06|LINK
i will do that do. it will be a while before i move, probably after the first of the year. i am thinking somewhere around march. so after i have made the switch, i will post back for some updates.
and in the mean time, i plan on talking with both the above and other hosts to get some questions answered. i will post back after i get some answers.
crystal web i believe says unlimited connections but i don't think i saw it mentioned one way or another on discountasp. that will be my first questions of course. and with the main issues i have had being the connections and not being able to control
by database options, using a host that gives me direct access through management studio should pretty much fix all.
i'll be back. :-)
Jun 10, 2010 05:03 PM|wleon2007|LINK
any feedback, or what did you end up doing?
Jun 10, 2010 05:30 PM|js06|LINK
I can't speak for TATWORTH, but I personally, for the moment, and reluctantly, have stayed with godaddy.
I have not had too many issues since this thread, which is why I decided to wait out the hassle of switching and moving my site, plus all the testing to be sure it all works, after the switch.
Last week however, I had another round with them about large file downloads. I have files that are over 30 mb, which download fine, but, I uploaded a video tutorial file about 64 mb and it wouldn't download correctly. Their first response, as always, was
"it's a scripting issue", meaning, it's my problem/fault. After I got a little bit upset, because I finally had it with several years worth of the same response, they actually went and talked with someone who knew something. They didn't have any real answers
for me though; they just suggested that it was a large file issue, buffering, etc. They said, they didn't know if there was a set file size limit on their server. I find that hard to believe but that's what they said. I am not surprised though because they
haven't had answers for me in the past as to why their database control panel doesn't work either.
So, I am still with them for now. I was able to find a work around for the file by breaking it into two files, and I did find a way to download the entire file in one using some different methods. In the end though, I will be moving to a new host. If
I didn't have a lot going on lately I would have already done it. Still not sure which host I will go with though.
I will try to post back here after I switch. I was going to a while back to update here, but couldn't find the thread for some reason. I will try to hang on to the link this time.
Jun 10, 2010 05:58 PM|wleon2007|LINK
thank you, I was right about to buy the basic windows package from godaddy, I am just fed up with webhost4life ( after 8 years with them)
I am concern about the issue you just mention, this download..., 30MB would be small files for some of my clients, more like 100-300MB is the norm... is this issue when you are using an application to triger a download, or it happens when download any file
by any other means, say ftp, or just right clicking on a link, in a page in your site and selecting save us
Jun 10, 2010 06:32 PM|js06|LINK
Specifically what i was doing with the large file is storing it in my app_data folder and accessing the file in my code. i wanted to have the file in app_data to prevent "hot linking", so only my application can access it.
i was able to make it work for 64 mb using:
I have not tried anything larger than that so not sure about any limits there.
I also tried using a hyperlink directly to the file and that seemed to be ok.
last resort i probably would have tried to work up something in the global.asax like this:
Sub Application_BeginRequest(ByVal sender
ByVal e As EventArgs)
If Request.Url.IsFile Then
'get info on the file and originating request
I haven't played with any of this in a long time.
here is some other code i used as part of some stats tracking in the end request event. i maybe would have used some thing along these lines to track where the requests came from for the other event and then handle them if they originated outside my application.
Dim rqst As
String = Request.Url.PathAndQuery.ToString
If Not Request.UrlReferrer
If Not Request.UrlReferrer.ToString.Contains(rqst)
And rqst <> "/Default.aspx"
I can't say whether it will work out for you on the 100 to 300 mb files. i believe you can also sign up for a one month no contract with them. spend a few bucks for a month and test some large files. i would hope that using ftp would have better
results. I don't want to tell you not to use godaddy, but if you need expect any technical help from your host, i would go somewhere else.
a big one you need to be aware of is to be sure you replace the dll file in your bin directory any time you make changes to your site. i always use a web applicaiton, not pre-compiled, so not sure about a compiled website. i have a client who uses a compiled
site and i can't remember at the moment, been a while, about theirs. they use godaddy also, but last i had them just re-upload the entire site fresh every time. their site is fairly small. but if you don't get the main files changed, godaddy IIS may never
pick up your changes. I had a heck of a time dealing with them on that. I had their people on the phone for several hours. Their response then was also "it's a scripting issue". they insisted it was my fault. at the time, i had very little experience
with web so it was frustrating. there was one rep who said that their IIS was probably not picking up the change, but i never got an answer how to fix it. someone in the forums here helped me figure it out.
so, just be aware that you will be on your own when you need help from them. i have received plenty of help here, but not with godaddy. just remember the words "it's a scripting issue". you will hear that every time you call. i guess that is their default
answer for all problems. The other part of it is "the hosting is working fine".
hope this helps. not sure what else i can tell you at the moment. i would recommend the hosts that deal specifically with asp.net and windows. i am leaning towards discountasp.net. it has been a while since i looked at them all, but i seem to recall
leaning their way.