Last post Aug 03, 2011 03:12 AM by montainne
Feb 04, 2009 12:49 PM|ndoharris|LINK
I am using Visual Studio 2008 (ver 9.0.30729.1 SP) with Sp1 and .Net 3.5SP1 on Vista Ultimate.
When I create add a menu using the control on the Toolbox's Navigation tab, everything goes just fine at first - the menu get created and items can be added with no problem.
However, after editing the menu the first time i can add items in Design View and all appears well. If I save the aspx file and reopen it later, the later changes to the menu do not appear. It appears that the changes being made while in Design view appear
on the screen, but are not being applied to the html. I have checked this and verified - switching between Design and Source views shows that what is shown in Design view is not being applied to the source code (html).
Any ideas out there about how to fix this? Anyone else seen this?
Thanks in advance for any help.
source not updating
Feb 05, 2009 06:30 AM|AvanthaSiriwardana|LINK
Feb 05, 2009 02:20 PM|Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT)|LINK
Unfortunately, it is a known issue and we are working on a fix. I can't give you a time line, sorry. Sometimes it helps using properties window instead of chrome (smart task menu) or vise versa.
Mar 06, 2009 10:58 AM|Richard|LINK
I have tried both of these suggestions and none of my changes save. When I add events it puts in the C# event handler but does not add it into the aspx, so I have to manually type it in.
Do you have a date for when this fix will be implemented?
Mar 06, 2009 11:47 AM|Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT)|LINK
You should see it in a couple weeks. I will post announcement in this forum and in our
Mar 14, 2009 07:31 AM|Richard|LINK
Designer changes not reflected in source
Mar 22, 2009 08:26 PM|gmirli|LINK
I have a similar issue that the changes in design view is not persisted into the source view.
It's easy to repeat in VS2008 SP1 (I'm using Vista Enterprise):
The following issue in Connect looks similar:
Unfortunately the official reply was that there will be no fix in the current version. It is completely unacceptable if that is true. I agree with one of the feedback in the above Connect thread that this will make VS2008 virtually useless (or at least
the design view useless) because we might risk losing all our work unknowingly as the design view is correct, but not saved to source code.
I sincerely hope that MS will take this issue seriously.
Mar 23, 2009 01:31 PM|Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT)|LINK
Here is the hotfix
Mar 23, 2009 11:47 PM|gmirli|LINK
Thank you! That fixes the problem!
Mar 24, 2009 12:05 AM|ndoharris|LINK
Thank you!!! The hot fix worked on both the Vista and XP machines! This will surely save me tons of time. :-)
Mar 24, 2009 05:25 PM|larslinq|LINK
Thanks for the hotfix. it solves the problem.
However it seems that it creates a new
In VS2008 designer: add a standard panel to the form
on to that a standard <img..> image.
When swichting between designer and code the designer amends the filepath for the src of the image.
It keeps adding something like [S]file:// to the filepath resulting in VS hanging. ?!!
Of course I can change all "<img" tags to <asp:image server controls but thats really what i wanted
Mar 25, 2009 01:25 PM|gmirli|LINK
Similar findings with Lars.
I dragged an <img> onto an <asp:panel>, then the code became:
<asp:Panel ID="Panel1" runat="server">
<img src="[A]http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/images/logo.gif" />
But VS didn't hang up.
When I reopened the webform, the image (of course) could not be displayed.
(However, I didn't check if this bug exists before the hotfix.)
Mar 25, 2009 01:56 PM|larslinq|LINK
I am afraid It did not ;-(
and the bug will dissappear if you uninstall the hotfix.
Mar 31, 2009 02:08 PM|Nomad88|LINK
Appears to fix the update on the standard properties but some properties for a Telerik Grid, for example, was not being updated...
Apr 14, 2009 01:39 PM|Vinicius Lara Cezar|LINK
The link not working (
Apr 21, 2009 03:55 AM|VeganMan|LINK
The page doesn't exist for this hotfix. Could I get the fix just by choosing Check for Updates in the help menu?
Apr 21, 2009 12:29 PM|Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT)|LINK
Update is temporarily removed, more information here
Jul 05, 2009 11:10 AM|improwise|LINK
What is the current status on this? I honestly find the HTML editor of VS2008 to be close to useless as it has so many bugs and doesn't really seem to work. It seems like it would actualy be quicker to just edit the HTML code manually, instead of trying
all kind of work arounds to get this to work. I have applied the hotfix but it doesn't really seem to fix this, I still have problems like trying to rename a button, only to see it magicaly change it's name back to what it had before and then sometimes it
will disappear completly. I must say I am suprised that this issue is still not solved, as Vs2008 isn't exactly brand new by now, and I am even more suprised that there isn't a bigger outcry about this from .NET developers.
Update: When I realized that everytime I tried to change the name of a textbox, VS2008 wouldnt only refuse to do that, it would also delete my newly added button from the page, I decided for the time being to give up all togheter on the "HTML designer".
Maybe it should be renamed to "HTML redesigner" as it seems to have a life of it's own. I would say the HTML designer hasn't been this bad since the early days of Visual Studio InterDev if you remember that. My Java worship collegues are laughing at me.
Update 2: I have a button named "buttonAddPaymentIn", which I delete and then save the page. I then add another button to the page. So far so good....but when I name the new button "buttonAddPaymentIn" not only won't the new button change its name, the old
button will suddenly reappear on the page! Seriously...
Jul 07, 2009 06:18 PM|improwise|LINK
No one? Can't imagine that we are the only ones affected by this bug?
(Sorry for nagging but it's driving us nuts having to switch to the HTML code constantly to correct these problems, feels like you have been transported 10 years back in time :D )
Jul 20, 2009 10:26 AM|jstrope|LINK
improwise may have hit on the actual source of the bug. When this happened to me today, everything was working fine until I deleted a column in a GridView and added it back with the same name. The re-add did not take (was there in design but not source),
and if I add columns to that or any other GridView on the page, they no longer take (even new columns with names not used previously).
So the initial trigger might be removing and adding something back with the same name.
Plus, even if you exit VS2008 and restart it, or even reboot, the problem remains, implying that whatever is causing the issue is stored with the project?
Jul 30, 2009 11:37 AM|FredericTorresSceris|LINK
I have the same issue with Visual Web Developer 2008 Express Edition Version 9.0.30729.1 SP.
Did find any hotfix or work around.
Sep 22, 2009 06:55 AM|improwise|LINK
So, what is the status on this? Should we just give up on VS2008? The error is extremly annoying and also very embarrasing for Microsoft, as it makes the whole product look stupid and my Java colleagues laugh at me when they hear me swear about this fault.
I have to be honest and say that I find VS2008 almost useless for any kind of web design because of this. Is Microsoft doing anything to solve this? Can anyone recommend an external editor that can be plugged in into VS2008 which can actually handle what VS2008
can't? So frustrated with this :(
Sep 22, 2009 10:04 AM|Nomad88|LINK
The problem is that it is not consistent. It does not happen on every page on certain pages. With VS 2010 just around the corner
they probably feel its not worth fixing.
Sep 22, 2009 03:28 PM|Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT)|LINK
Did you install the hotfix?
Sep 22, 2009 04:26 PM|Nomad88|LINK
Sep 28, 2009 08:09 AM|improwise|LINK
The hotfix doesnt seem to make any difference at all regarding this, ie the fix isnt really a fix. This is driving me so cracy right now, I do check in:s after each succesful page update now just to make sure that VS2008 doesnt suddenly decide to do a roll
back on me and delete everything I have done. Havn't done manual HTML editing in 5 years but with VS2008 it seems to be the only option...
Sep 29, 2009 06:09 PM|improwise|LINK
I've just changed name and label of 12 textboxes including their labels, only to suddenly have VS2008 roll back everything and of course undo doesn't work at all. To be fully honest, I H A T E the (so called) HTML designer in VS2008 right now, it is a usless
piece of crap! :( Did I mention that VS2008 also decided to rename my objectdatasource, as well as rolling back all the columes in the datagrid. What a joke.....could just as well use Notepad...
Is there ANY way to get a working HTML designer with Vs2008? Don't even mind if I have to pay for it, because I am loosing countless of hours because of this...is this really the best Microsoft has to offer in the year of 2009??
Sep 30, 2009 11:39 PM|stevemjv|LINK
Yes, it's certainly not just GridViews - I'm having the problem with a DetailsView. All has been perfectly fine for weeks, then for no identifiable reason, suddenly it refuses to move any design changes to the ASPX. I always understood that the design view
and its changes were rendered from the ASPX, but it now seems that is not the case - they must be held somewhere else, at least temporarily.
When I close the page containing the DetailsView it doesn't even ask if I want to save it, so it obviously doesn't think it has been changed. This is totally ridiculous, and is causing massive waste of time. I have installed the hotfix. I have restarted
VS2008, and rebooted the computer, so whatever it is, it is persisted somewhere in the project.
Oct 07, 2009 05:21 AM|improwise|LINK
It seems obvious that Microsoft doesn't care about this problem, I mean, it after all only their main development product that isn't working for web development....nothing big really :(
Considering that another major bug, the refreshing of datasources, hasn't worked satisfactory in Visual Studio for several years (if ever), I can't say I have high hopes of this other problem getting fixed any time soon.
Sure, Visual Studio is still all in all a good product, but you can't help but feel that it could have been much more with a little attention to bugs...
Oct 07, 2009 08:29 PM|stevemjv|LINK
Yes, and it only gets worse. The main page in the application I'm building at the moment is quite a complex one, with a MultiView with a dozen or so Views, most of which contain a UserControl with a DetailsView, datasources etc. Visual Studio has huge
problems with this - almost any change to anything on the page (it can be a single keystroke) causes it to stop responding for up to 10 or 15 seconds, and occasionally it will simply NEVER come back - if I look in Task Manager in this situation it is using
up all of one of my 2 CPUs, and eventually (3 or 4 minutes) it will crash with all sorts of Out Of Memory exceptions.
I broke up the functionality of this page into UserControls because I thought it would help. It certainly helps from the developer's point of view (much more maintainable and understandable), but not at all from the Visual Studio point of view - in fact
it seems to have made it worse. Yesterday one of these crashes managed to save the aspx for this page with about 80% of it missing. This tool is almost unusable for me at the moment, but I don't know what else I can do.
Are we having fun yet? Is anyone from Microsoft listening?
Oct 12, 2009 04:46 AM|Andrew Barlow|LINK
Wow - I thought I was going nuts.
The amount of work hours I have lost is massive - there must be loads of us out there with this issue.
I am also getting to the point where I find the IDE unusable for web dev as I cannot trust it.
I fly the Microsoft flag at our company and speak very highly of the product but I am going to have to tell customers - sorry - you know that RAD development environment I use - well - you see its not actually RAD anymore because I have to pick and poke
at the aspx it creates because I can't trust the parsing engine to do it for me.
Please please please - Microsoft - can you fix this bug.
The amount of effort you put into VS2008 is staggering - but this bug - as far as I am concerned makes the whole thing useless - and its a real shame.
As well as this - think of all the companies creating third party controls for Vs2008. There controls will cease to work properly also as I have found with the Dev Express grids because the fault obviously lies within the engine.
So come on Microsoft - give us a fix and put us out of our misery - or we may all be using Dream Weaver or some other product in the very near future - which as I am sure you would agree - would be a real shame, and move to the dark side for all us "Microsoft
Oct 14, 2009 09:51 AM|improwise|LINK
So, to summarize, several experienced developers have come to the conclusion that VS2008 just isn't a RAD anymore, and several people, including myself, now claim VS2008 to be close to useless. And still, despite this discussion being on the official ASP.NET
forum, no one from Microsoft really seem to care to respond to this, or even better, trying to solve the problem. Should we then make the assumption that Microsoft doesn't care about Visual Studio and ASP.NET anymore, and that we will have to move on to get
a development environment ready for 2010, instead of taking us back to 1990s when manual HTML editing was the cool thing to do?
I have always had the opinion that the HTML designer in Visual Studio was.....welll....lets say there was room for improvements....but I never thought that it would get worse...
Nov 02, 2009 02:14 PM|improwise|LINK
This just seem to go on and on, and noone from MS seem to care. The latest problem I am having is with a GridView that according to the "Designer" (maybe destroyer would be a more approriate word) isn't there at all....besides the fact that the HTML Editor
still show all the source code as before and all browser seem to be able to display it as wlel. This is just to much, is this really the best MS can do these days???
Dec 11, 2009 12:52 PM|Crotchy|LINK
Yep - Ive got similar problems on a relatively simple master/details page with a gridview and details view. I was trying to edit the DV fields to make some of them templated. With perserverance I managed to get a couple done - I just kept going into Edit
Fields dialog and Okaying it until the change stuck, but Im having probs getting the latest change to stick. Its funny cos the little * on the page tab appears and then disappears after a couple of seconds.
Agree that the data must be stored somewhere else in the project / temp file. Can anyone find it though? If we could find it we could prob delete it and hopefully fix things.
Ill try the hotfix...
As for the guy that said VS was locking up with 100% cpu etc - you might try turning off the html validation (Tools / Options / Text Editor / HTML / Validation) - I think some of this Validate-As-You-Type functionality is what can kill it.
Dec 11, 2009 01:03 PM|Crotchy|LINK
I notice that in a very similar bug reported in connect
the resolution is:
"Posted by Microsoft on 16/07/2009 at 13:34
This issue has been resolved in Visual Studio 2010. You can download the Beta at
lol - you think Im gonna use _beta_ s/w for my job? Hows about fixing the problem in VS2008?
Mar 10, 2010 10:41 AM|Haitham Khedre|LINK
All your posts fixes and solution are not working to make design view work after installing VS2008 SP1 , so ?
Jul 20, 2010 11:10 AM|sspatrudu|LINK
Check if all tags are closed on the aspx file.
eg : if you have opened a tag and forgot to close it it doesnt update any code behind the closing tag.
Aug 03, 2011 03:12 AM|montainne|LINK
Had this issue been resolved already? I think this problem still exist with VS 2010... all of my opening tags were properly ended, any IDEA?