Last post Dec 10, 2019 02:29 PM by sjnaughton
Mar 16, 2011 12:41 PM|PeterSkellern|LINK
I am worried about the lack of active participants in this forum. I have also seen that nobody has even answered a question during the last two days and the main contributor (MVP) has fallen from almost 60 answers per month to 16 only.
My question would be: Is Dynamic Data dead? Does anybody know something that we all should know about Dynamic Data? My question goes in the sense that LINQ suffered the same process and it came finally out superseded by EF. Thank you
Mar 16, 2011 01:39 PM|Curt_C|LINK
No, its not dead...to my knowledge.
Many of the MVP's were out to the annual Summit so that may contribute to the lack of response from them, but as for the others its probably either bad timing or lack of interest.
Mar 16, 2011 01:51 PM|PeterSkellern|LINK
Curt_C, first of all thank you. It is really urgent for us to know if the road map we have started by using Dynamic Data will come to a final happy end. We can’t afford to put our hopes in the hands of an external MVP contributor to this forum only but
it seems that there is nowhere else to go to ask if not this forum. We are asking: Is Dynamic Data dead? because of that. We really need an answer to go on with Dynamic Data. Do you think we should better try with MVC or conventional ASP.Net development intstead?
Thank you again
Mar 16, 2011 03:30 PM|Curt_C|LINK
Sadly I know no more than you on the inner workings at Microsoft. When and if the DD line was to come to an end the odds are it wouldn't be anything broadcast too far in advance of the official announcement.
With that said, the same can be said about nearly any product line. I totally feel your aprehension.
Personally, I've never really used (nor looked into DD) much so I can't even speak to it's viability. The general rule I always follow though is that if you are hesitant enough to doubt it's long-term potential than you should probably continue to evaluate
Mar 17, 2011 12:34 PM|sjnaughton|LINK
Hi Peter, no it's definatly not dead, infact it's getting around a bit you can see it in MVC and Silverlight in the form of MetaData and there were considerable additins to it in .Net 4.
Mar 21, 2011 11:45 AM|PeterSkellern|LINK
Thank you. It seems that this forum has been intentionally devoted to end-users interactivity exclusively. It is certainly interesting that a question like this, with a huge magnitude, still remains unanswered. There is certain kind of feeling of uncertainty
hovering all over my mind like if I were watching the path of the last green mile for Dynamic Data
Mar 21, 2011 02:01 PM|sjnaughton|LINK
Well, I think I just answered it [:)] NO DD is not dead... the team have answered this question many times on this forum previously. I have had the impression from the ASP.Net that DD will continue to be a part of web forms (which it's self is not dead.)
I have made a living from developing site based on DD and I have no issues with continuing it's use.
One thing to remember it's not easy once something comes backed in to the framework to remove it and DD is backed in. [:)]
Mar 21, 2011 07:44 PM|PeterSkellern|LINK
Thank you. Having learned from Linq experience raises alarms
Mar 21, 2011 08:04 PM|IgorB|LINK
What makes you think that Dynamic Data is dead? Is there any reason? It's part of the latest ASP.NET 4 and 3.5. It can not go anywhere, even if someone wants to. It's just a question if you want to use it or not.
I don't see it's happening in the near future...
Mar 22, 2011 01:36 AM|PeterSkellern|LINK
Until now, with the exception of a very scarce chapters containing trivial information on Dynamic Data from a couple of authors and a just one book entirely devoted to it, dating from almost two years ago, I haven’t seen any major effort from someone else’s
than the C#Bits NotAClue and Oleg Sych contributors in publishing something about it. That means that until now Dynamic Data is not supported and it seems to be, regardless of how miraculous such wonderful technology might be, that it won’t be fully supported
in coming releases of the .Net framework or even available. Coming back to Linq, there were plenty, hundreds of books and serious articles about it and it came finally superseded by EF. So there are more clues that it won’t be any longer supported than it
will be. You can go to the very home site of ASP.Net and you will find that the training videos are dated almost 3 years ago. No one form the manufacturer’s side is writing about Dynamic Data right now.
That’s why we are here in this forum, because we have decided to use it and it seems that this is the only place to go if you want to find answers, mostly from contributors than more strongly featured players in this matter. My question
then goes in the sense that Dynamic Data should be rescued and put back to life, with its whole strength, with plenty of added features, with third party sides writing applications and add-ons around it, like Telerik for mentioning one. If you check code generation
products other than Microsoft you will see that they don’t even support Dynamic Data code generation. Right now it seems that even strong features as generation of UML sequence diagrams is not supported for Dynamic Data projects. If you take in consideration
that just because a product is there it doesn’t mean that it should be broadly accepted by the largest world community of developers on .Net all over the world. Visual FoxPro for instance is still delivered within Microsoft products but I think no one is going
to use it for writing Internet applications. So, what’s the clatter with my questioning about it? Easy: because I want to keep on using it at its full capacity, supported, documented, enhanced, refurbished, and non-trivialized, like a real weapon, which by
the way it is
Mar 22, 2011 02:10 AM|IgorB|LINK
All I'm saying that Dynamic Data is a simple tool, like for example asp:ListView. You don't find a lot of articles and books that dedicated 100% to just ListView. Although, I can tell you that I can create an entire website, that just use 1 single ListView!
Without writing a single line of code! Because ListView uses underlying ADO.NET. I don't need to write any code behind. My ListView will communicate with my SQL server naturally. All I need to do is update my database, by using... another ListView. It will
give me the same result as you are getting using the Dynamic Data. I have 3-4 pages in my website with 1 single ListView, which generates content for my entire page by pulling the information from my db dynamically.
You just need to know wht's your objective, and you can use any tool available to achieve it.
Dynamic Data is part of .NET framework. You can not remove it. It's the same thing if you have an apartment building and all of the sudden you decided to get rid off 1 apartment on the 1st floor! Then the whole building will collapse.
If you think that there is not enough info about DD on the internet, then it can be a golden opportunity to make money. Just start a blog about Dynamic Data. Write about everything you know, place some ads on your site using Google Adsense. You will have
a lot of traffic and make money on the advertising...
Mar 22, 2011 02:24 AM|PeterSkellern|LINK
Thank you but I think that belittling someone that is just simply looking for answers is just not right
Mar 22, 2011 10:35 AM|IgorB|LINK
Mar 22, 2011 02:48 PM|PeterSkellern|LINK
Thank you. I think that maybe your way of writing sounded very sarcastic more than if you were really giving advice. This kind of questions is serious and they are intended to clarify our future development stages and strategies. It was
not a random decision to go ahead with this tool and you must understand that even if the feature is there, delivered with VS, it doesn't mean that is fully and seriously supported by the vendor. It might as well be discontinued or simply deprecated by the
time framework 5 will see the light. In that scenario, what will you do with all the code written which supposedly was going to be a legacy application and suddenly its backbone has simply gone away?
Dec 10, 2019 12:01 PM|mkamoski|LINK
Is Dynamic Data dead now?
Dec 10, 2019 12:56 PM|PatriceSc|LINK
This is to create a new app? You could consider giving a try at ASP.NET Core (which doesn't support web forms).
Now .NET Framework 4.x is still supported as long as the underlying OS. Dynamic Data is part of it and still supported. DynamicField is used to show up the latest
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/web-forms/overview/presenting-and-managing-data/model-binding/ feature and this is similar to MVC DisplayFor/EditorFor.
Unless you are one of those who consider something as "dead" as soon as something else is out, the ultimate decision is still yours depending on your situation (you are using it successfully for an existing app ?)
Dec 10, 2019 02:29 PM|sjnaughton|LINK
No it's not but Web Forms is not receiving any love going forwards however that best way to go would be to adopt Asp.net Core 3.1 and use Server Side Blazor or Razor Components in MVC Pages. This is kinda the recommend way forwards for Web Forms Developers.
I have plans to bring a Dynamic Data approach to Blazor but it's a long ways off yet