Last post Aug 06, 2006 07:58 PM by tutus
Mar 12, 2006 08:55 PM|Cattrah|LINK
I will be graduating April 2006 and am looking for a position anywhere. Have the programmer come to you! I have been developing .NET applications for 2 years for an entire college at my university. I have strong customer orientation skills. I have pioneered
our own project development lifecycle and have been managing and working in a team atmosphere for the duration of my experience. I have developed asset tracking applications, scheduling applications, automated adminsitrative work for our departments, built
messaging and work management applications, and more. Everyone wants something different, but I've never met a challenge I haven't overcome. The diversity of my knowledge of programming makes me a "logic programmer" I can pick up any new language in just a
few weeks. I am the programmer for you, please email me at
email@example.com. My resume:
Mar 13, 2006 07:52 PM|ndinakar|LINK
Mar 26, 2006 06:09 AM|mike.carey|LINK
If I were you, I'd select 1 language and 1 database. Personally I'd choose C# and SQL. Then build your resume and your career around it.
While you are looking for work, I'd also run out to RentACoder or Guru and find a few small projects in the technologies you've chosen. While you could make more money by looking for lost change on the sidewalk,
you can add the experience to your resume and that will pay dividends down the road. New grads are like herd of trout going upstream at the same time, the sooner you can get professional experience and shed the "new grad" label, the better off you'll be.
Microsoft has some nice patterns a practices documents, always good reading. http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/
Mar 27, 2006 07:55 PM|Proximo|LINK
As an aside, (and not to bash - mind you), I can't see what collecting 80's toys has to do with attention to detail and dedication as relates to an information technology setting.
I would find a way to work in to your resume the fact that you "have developed asset tracking applications, scheduling applications, automated adminsitrative work for our departments, built messaging and work management applications" as a way of being more
specific about your experience. That defninitely relates to an information technology setting.
Also, I would feel a bit uncomfortable putting my home address out for the world to see in a forum such as this. You never know what sort of creepy people might be out there... If someone wants to talk to you about a job, they can do it by phone or email.
Mar 28, 2006 04:59 PM|Cattrah|LINK
Anyone who has ever collected anything knows the value of a clean, mint condition item. As such, most collectors pass the trait of scrutinizing and finding and fixing the flaws of the collection to other aspects of their life. In this case, the analogy perfectly
represents how I look at my code. I build it with the same care I do when I clean, organize and add to my collection. I also keep the same eye for detail, flaw and efficiency while building each application.
Also, a resume is not PURELY for telling an employer how great you are at your technological acheivements. It's important to make something else about you stand out. The fact I collect toys from the 80s can tell someone I'm a fun and unique person. Apparently,
that line caught your eye and spark some kind of curiosity right?
Thanks for the resume suggestions. As for the address, that's what ninja husbands are for. [;)]
Mar 29, 2006 05:45 PM|Proximo|LINK
I wasn't saying that the line about collecting 80's toys should not be on the resume, but that it was not as inherently obvious to me (or perhaps recruiters) as it may be to you that collecting toys requires a lot of attention to detail. I agree that a resume
is not just for technical acheivements, and you certainly have a better looking resume than I did when I first graduated.
Hope the search is going well. It's tough sometimes to land that first 'real' job.
Apr 13, 2006 05:28 AM|danhirsch|LINK
I would say that...recruiters don't care about your hobbies. The hiring/interviewing manager might find it interesting or it might speak for your character in an interview, but if I got a resume like that, I would be like "Wow..thats
really not a useful peice of information".
As far as your other comments... For somebody who is just starting out, and knows zilch or near zilch about the industry, you might want to take advice from others with just a little more weight than your own opinions.
Jun 08, 2006 07:04 PM|tutus|LINK
Can someone tell me what mike.carey meant by his saying: run out to RentACoder or Guru and find a few small projects in the technologies you've chosen. While you could make more money by looking for lost change on the sidewalk
I also have the same pb as Cattrah
Jun 08, 2006 09:14 PM|Cattrah|LINK
Thanks to all the many responses! Just as an update I've found a really great job with a super great company.
Good luck tutus with your job search!
Jun 08, 2006 09:48 PM|Proximo|LINK
Jun 08, 2006 10:16 PM|Cattrah|LINK
Jun 08, 2006 10:41 PM|tutus|LINK
are u guys aware of any good other web sites to get small projects for beginners or intermediate prople like the Guru.com and such or even better web sites. I think that s a good idea for me since I don t have big experience and i m having hard time getting
job in .Net
Jun 12, 2006 04:52 AM|EmeraldMound|LINK
Jun 13, 2006 01:52 AM|tutus|LINK
thanks man,. i ll try if they ve some small projects to start with and to get some hands on experience
I appreciate your advice.
Jun 13, 2006 02:29 AM|Cattrah|LINK
Jun 13, 2006 04:41 PM|EmeraldMound|LINK
I'd defiantely give getafreelancer.com a try. If you can't find anything in a month or so, email me.
Jun 13, 2006 06:09 PM|tutus|LINK
Jun 13, 2006 08:08 PM|EmeraldMound|LINK
I don't know about temp agencies, but a technology recruiter working for a staffing firm won't be able to do a thing for you. They don't have "entry level" positions and they won't submit a person with no experience for a position
with a client.
What's your background, current job, residence?
If you're already in IT it can help you transition into a .NET developers role. If you have a good paying job, then you could ride the certification bandwagon for awhile. Most recruiters will
talk to you if you have plenty of certifications. Certifications with no professional experience would be a hard sell, but recruiters do like certifications as it makes them look better to the client. If you don't have the cash the next solution is time.
Build up alot of small projects as an independant contractor. If you're able to produce, in 3-5 years you'll be so busy you won't care about finding a real 9-5 bricks and mortar job. If you're still struggling after 3-5 years (and you live in the Untied
States) you'll have a massive resume that will land you with a municipal "warm the chair" $40k a year job that lets you load printer paper and explain to co-workers how to save their files to a floppy. Not a dream world, but it may help pay the bills.
Jun 13, 2006 10:21 PM|tutus|LINK
Jun 14, 2006 01:11 AM|EmeraldMound|LINK
You're welcome. I've been there myself.
There are some development firms in europe that I work with on occasion. If you live in one of those countries I may be able to help.
Jun 14, 2006 01:17 AM|tutus|LINK
Jun 14, 2006 08:47 PM|seabaku|LINK
Jun 14, 2006 10:58 PM|tutus|LINK
Jun 15, 2006 03:32 PM|EmeraldMound|LINK
Seabaku is right that being able to point to an enterprise product or component that's been released to the public and say, I created that pays dividends. It's all about building a resume of projects to lend credibility and get your foot in the door. If
you're a WebForms developers it's easy to build and release a product on the internet.
Here's something tangible. There's a company called ArtLogic
http://www.artlogic.com. They claim to be more interested in ability than credentials. The pay is good and the work is all remote (meaning you can work from home). When you apply they will send you a sample program, which you are to complete and return
to them for review. The sample program had been C#, I don't know if it still is.
Another option you have is to slave yourself out for the experience to add to your resume. Working for free is something I wouldn't recommend, but if you can't find paying work I can set you up with a local company. They are easy to get along with, the
work would be minimal. Maybe an hour or two a week. But it may help you get your foot in the door.
Jun 16, 2006 12:13 AM|seabaku|LINK
Jun 16, 2006 01:26 AM|tutus|LINK
what do u mean by .NET training portal ?
P.S: Thanks EmeraldMound for the offer, i really appreciate, I ll let you know.
Jun 22, 2006 02:28 AM|tutus|LINK
Jun 22, 2006 03:05 AM|EmeraldMound|LINK
Wow offers are nice. Do you feel more confident about your SQL skills or VB skills?
I'd personally recommend you take one of the jobs and start doing freelance work during your time off. Best case senario -- you'll build up enough freelance business that you'll be able to quit your 9-5 job.
I'm might get shot at for suggesting this. If I were just starting out and wanted to do freelance work, I'd learn php. VB coders are a dime a dozen, I know I'm one myself. Our local market is flooded with them.
Jun 22, 2006 06:11 AM|tutus|LINK
P.S: dear EmeraldMound, my freelance project is not for now but in 2 or 3 years once I build some skills more than the basic stuff I know now about .Net. As
for Sql and SQL server, I am really beginner
Jun 22, 2006 08:42 PM|gbarnett|LINK
Aug 06, 2006 10:27 AM|seabaku|LINK
Sorry for replying so late.
I am about to complete my first commercial ASP.NET project. Deployment is scheduled to be next week. Then, testing, getting feedback and money and focusing on hunting for new projects. By the way, I was communicating with the person responsible for the project
through MSN, so I could get valuable outsoursing experience.
Whatever happens don't give up .NET programming. A lot of companies move to .NET platform. php is not so effective when you make something for Windows platforms and if your database is Sql Server.
P.S. Let me know your email, and I'll send you my training portal. Despite of book on programming it contains codes that allow to meet many programming challenges.
Aug 06, 2006 07:58 PM|tutus|LINK
let me know if u need some help with your .Net projects.