Look at the Add and Remove Programs control panel app and see if Service Pack 2 is listed there.
If it is, try reinstalling/repairing it and then check Windows Updates again. If it still present in Windows Updates, uninstall from your computer, reboot, and then install from Windows Updates.
I believe I had some issues with this SP in terms of getting it to install correctly. You might also look at your Windows Update history and see if any previous attempt failed.
Christopher Reed, MCT, MCPD, MCTS, Microsoft Specialist, MTA
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
>>>Look at the Add and Remove Programs control panel app and see if Service Pack 2 is listed there. If it is, try reinstalling/repairing it and then check Windows Updates again.
...I did that and it still is in Windows Updates. Furthermore, there really does not seem to be a fully fleshed-out "reinstall/repair" built-in, when I click "Change" in AddRemovePrograms for this item, it runs something but there is no dialog or other indication
of exactly what it is doing-- it just runs and the finishes.
Regarding this...
>>> If it still present in Windows Updates uninstall from your computer, reboot, and then install from Windows Updates.
...when I try to uninstall Framework 2 Sp 2, the procesing is halted by a prompt saying... "Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 cannot be uninstalled because it will affect other applications that are installed. For more information, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=91126"
...so I am stuck and that link send me to... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/bb188202.aspx ...where it seems that I need to uninstall back to the Framework 2 if I want to continue the uninstall. As such, uninstall seems impractical and will probably
be a last resort. That is, I would rather live with the nag than (essentially) rebuild my machine.
If you have more thoughts on the process, then please let me know.
...has some instructions regarding how to uninstall Framework 2 and rebuild, which involves the usual RegEdit disclaimers, which means (in fine print) that the cure may be worse than the cold.
Ug.
Time for a small rant. As much as I love the Framework... I thought the issues of the Registry... a thing of the past.... Why these things don't over-install is another mystery... Each of these should be either wholly-idempotent or all-encompassing... [etc]...
Regardless, of all that I am, of course, continuing forward with the Framework and am keeping the current state of affairs.
The .NET Framework is still, IMHO, far and away the best development platform-- maybe I just need a change and should start writing in F# to take my mind onto new territory.
:-)
My prediction (and my hope) is that after some Security Tuesday patch party, or after my install of VisualStudio 2010, all this will "self-heal".
If anyone has any help (other than "rebuild your machine" please), then please do send it along as it would be very much appreciated.
(All that being said, I am up-and-running and everything is building fine and deploying fine so maybe this is a case of the indicator utilities being funky?)
First of all, I understand where you're coming from as I just went through the same process through with the installation of .NET 4.0. In my case, though, the process kept telling me that I was still installing even after about two or three reboots. Still,
after tinkering with the registry and purging some files, I was finally able to get it working so I could install it and everything else.
As for your rant, unfortunately, as it has been pointed to us over and over again with regard to using the interoperability functionality from the Framework, Microsoft, too, has to live by this as well since they cannot write Windows overnight. For the
most part, Win32 is a huge investment as well as an enormous chunk of the code in each current Windows version and that won't change soon (and shouldn't because it will be really overwhelming then). As a result, the really fun features like the registry still
exists and still has to be maintained, especially when installing applications. Apart from that, though, I believe, at least from a development perspective, the .NET Framework, even with all of the strangeness associated with versions 3.0 and 3.5, is still
leaps and bounds better at managing developer expectations when compared to Win32/COM.
A few years ago, I went through something like this. I believe that it was a SP for one of the Framework, though I'm sure which one. Every time I tried to install, either through Microsoft Update and manually (I believe the machine was running Windows
XP), it would fail. Never affected anything I was developing, but it was very, very annoying. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I believe that it was something along the lines of your "self-heal" wish: At some point, the right critical update fixed
the problem. Never figured out what caused and, after it was fixed, didn't care to find out either.
Anyway, if I come across anything, I will certainly pass your way. Otherwise, May 11th isn't too far away.....
Christopher Reed, MCT, MCPD, MCTS, Microsoft Specialist, MTA
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
I am currently using this sequence found while searching for the same solution. It was explained the updates where released out of sequence so it must be first removed, kb974417 installed, and then kb976569 reinstalled.
I am currently using this sequence found while searching for the same solution. It was explained the updates where released out of sequence so it must be first removed, kb974417 installed, and then kb976569 reinstalled...
Lester --
Did you have Framework 3 installed? Did you have to remove it before doing the steps that you noted above?
Did you have Framework 3.5 installed? Did you have to remove it before doing the steps that you noted above?
Please advise.
(I ask because in many of the articles that I have read concerning Framework fixes they recommed uninstall back to the version that you need to repair-- so, I am wondering if you had to do that.)
I am currently using this sequence found while searching for the same solution...
Lester --
I really do appreciate your time taken to point this out.
Unfortunately, I still have Windows Update reporting that the Framework 2 Sp 2 needs to be installed, and the Windows Updates System Tray icon says the same thing, and the windows log-off still says "install updates and shutdown", so there it is.
No big thing though-- everything is debugging, compiling, packaging, and deploying OK-- so, maybe it is just the pesky indicators themselves.
I am moving on for now, after >12 reboots today, I have work to do.
:-)
(Still, it would be interesting to know if you rolled back from Framework 3 or not when you applied your fix steps, as I note above.)
mkamoski
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Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not ins...
Apr 15, 2010 01:13 PM|LINK
All --
Please help.
Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not installed.
When I go to WindowsUpdate at...
http://www.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en-us
...I check for updates and it always says that the "Software, Optional" update
"Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update for Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB976569)"
...is available for install.
I select it, ...
...I install it, ...
...the page says the install is done and successful, ...
...I reboot, ...
...I return to WindowsUpdate, ...
...I check for updates again, ...
...and the Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 is stil there.
I have also tried downloading the actual update from...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b2c0358-915b-4eb5-9b1d-10e506da9d0f&displaylang=en
...and when I try to install the installer says it is already installed.
The silly system tray icon saying "updates are ready to be installed" is also ever-present, with the same dead effects.
At logoff, the system also has the "install updates and then shutdown" option ever-available and that too does not work.
I am developing using Framework 3.5 and it seems fine.
How can all this be fixed?
Please advise.
Thank you.
-- Mark Kamoski
Windows Update Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
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Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 15, 2010 01:26 PM|LINK
Look at the Add and Remove Programs control panel app and see if Service Pack 2 is listed there.
If it is, try reinstalling/repairing it and then check Windows Updates again. If it still present in Windows Updates, uninstall from your computer, reboot, and then install from Windows Updates.
I believe I had some issues with this SP in terms of getting it to install correctly. You might also look at your Windows Update history and see if any previous attempt failed.
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
mkamoski
Contributor
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Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 16, 2010 07:17 PM|LINK
Careed --
I appreciate your nice reply.
Unfortunately, I am still having trouble.
Regarding this...
>>>Look at the Add and Remove Programs control panel app and see if Service Pack 2 is listed there. If it is, try reinstalling/repairing it and then check Windows Updates again.
...I did that and it still is in Windows Updates. Furthermore, there really does not seem to be a fully fleshed-out "reinstall/repair" built-in, when I click "Change" in AddRemovePrograms for this item, it runs something but there is no dialog or other indication of exactly what it is doing-- it just runs and the finishes.
Regarding this...
>>> If it still present in Windows Updates uninstall from your computer, reboot, and then install from Windows Updates.
...when I try to uninstall Framework 2 Sp 2, the procesing is halted by a prompt saying... "Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 cannot be uninstalled because it will affect other applications that are installed. For more information, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=91126" ...so I am stuck and that link send me to... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/bb188202.aspx ...where it seems that I need to uninstall back to the Framework 2 if I want to continue the uninstall. As such, uninstall seems impractical and will probably be a last resort. That is, I would rather live with the nag than (essentially) rebuild my machine.
If you have more thoughts on the process, then please let me know.
Thank you.
-- Mark Kamoski
Framework 2 Sp 2 not working
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Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 16, 2010 11:39 PM|LINK
Take a look at these links:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2009/02/11/9413886.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
mkamoski
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Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 20, 2010 11:33 AM|LINK
Car --
I appreciate the information.
The link...
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2009/02/11/9413886.aspx
...has some instructions regarding a repair of Framework 2 Sp 2, but they did not work.
The link...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077
...has some instructions regarding how to uninstall Framework 2 and rebuild, which involves the usual RegEdit disclaimers, which means (in fine print) that the cure may be worse than the cold.
Ug.
Time for a small rant. As much as I love the Framework... I thought the issues of the Registry... a thing of the past.... Why these things don't over-install is another mystery... Each of these should be either wholly-idempotent or all-encompassing... [etc]...
Regardless, of all that I am, of course, continuing forward with the Framework and am keeping the current state of affairs.
The .NET Framework is still, IMHO, far and away the best development platform-- maybe I just need a change and should start writing in F# to take my mind onto new territory.
:-)
My prediction (and my hope) is that after some Security Tuesday patch party, or after my install of VisualStudio 2010, all this will "self-heal".
If anyone has any help (other than "rebuild your machine" please), then please do send it along as it would be very much appreciated.
(All that being said, I am up-and-running and everything is building fine and deploying fine so maybe this is a case of the indicator utilities being funky?)
Thank you.
-- Mark Kamoski
Careed
All-Star
18764 Points
3637 Posts
Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 20, 2010 12:19 PM|LINK
Mark,
First of all, I understand where you're coming from as I just went through the same process through with the installation of .NET 4.0. In my case, though, the process kept telling me that I was still installing even after about two or three reboots. Still, after tinkering with the registry and purging some files, I was finally able to get it working so I could install it and everything else.
As for your rant, unfortunately, as it has been pointed to us over and over again with regard to using the interoperability functionality from the Framework, Microsoft, too, has to live by this as well since they cannot write Windows overnight. For the most part, Win32 is a huge investment as well as an enormous chunk of the code in each current Windows version and that won't change soon (and shouldn't because it will be really overwhelming then). As a result, the really fun features like the registry still exists and still has to be maintained, especially when installing applications. Apart from that, though, I believe, at least from a development perspective, the .NET Framework, even with all of the strangeness associated with versions 3.0 and 3.5, is still leaps and bounds better at managing developer expectations when compared to Win32/COM.
A few years ago, I went through something like this. I believe that it was a SP for one of the Framework, though I'm sure which one. Every time I tried to install, either through Microsoft Update and manually (I believe the machine was running Windows XP), it would fail. Never affected anything I was developing, but it was very, very annoying. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I believe that it was something along the lines of your "self-heal" wish: At some point, the right critical update fixed the problem. Never figured out what caused and, after it was fixed, didn't care to find out either.
Anyway, if I come across anything, I will certainly pass your way. Otherwise, May 11th isn't too far away.....
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
Lester K
Member
14 Points
2 Posts
Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 20, 2010 03:26 PM|LINK
I am currently using this sequence found while searching for the same solution. It was explained the updates where released out of sequence so it must be first removed, kb974417 installed, and then kb976569 reinstalled.
Remove KB976569
Msiexec /I {C09FB3CD-3D0C-3F2D-899A-6A1D67F2073F} MSIPATCHREMOVE={621253FA-14E8-34AB-82B3-22590E6A961A} REBOOT=ReallySupress /q
Install KB974417
ndp20sp2-kb974417-x86.exe /Quiet /Norestart
Reinstall KB976569
NDP20SP2-KB976569-x86.exe /Quiet /Norestart
Hope this helps you as it has for me.
Les K
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Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 20, 2010 06:52 PM|LINK
Lester --
Did you have Framework 3 installed? Did you have to remove it before doing the steps that you noted above?
Did you have Framework 3.5 installed? Did you have to remove it before doing the steps that you noted above?
Please advise.
(I ask because in many of the articles that I have read concerning Framework fixes they recommed uninstall back to the version that you need to repair-- so, I am wondering if you had to do that.)
Thank you.
-- Mark Kamoski
mkamoski
Contributor
5694 Points
1565 Posts
Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 20, 2010 08:16 PM|LINK
Lester --
I really do appreciate your time taken to point this out.
Unfortunately, I still have Windows Update reporting that the Framework 2 Sp 2 needs to be installed, and the Windows Updates System Tray icon says the same thing, and the windows log-off still says "install updates and shutdown", so there it is.
No big thing though-- everything is debugging, compiling, packaging, and deploying OK-- so, maybe it is just the pesky indicators themselves.
I am moving on for now, after >12 reboots today, I have work to do.
:-)
(Still, it would be interesting to know if you rolled back from Framework 3 or not when you applied your fix steps, as I note above.)
Thank you.
-- Mark Kamoski
Lester K
Member
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Re: Windows Update keeps reporting that Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Update is not...
Apr 21, 2010 05:23 PM|LINK
I did not touch dotnet3 at all. Just did exactly as I listed.
I did work on the latest failed dotnet3.5 patch.
On that one I removed all dotnet3 and 3.5 then ran wuauclt /detectnow
That seemed to resolve that failed patch issue.