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Last post Jul 29, 2009 12:43 AM by luker459
Jul 01, 2006 03:28 PM|LINK
Jul 03, 2006 04:18 PM|LINK
As the author of third party validation controls, I have to develop compatibility with the various suites out there. I have found the following about Telerik:
* They are the most popular suite product used by my customers... by far.
* They are excellent in their tech support responsiveness and content of their responses.
* They try to be up-front about their developments and problems.
* They respond to bugs very quickly.
* They make it easy for you to offer suggestions and concerns. You will usually get a thoughtful response so you know that they are listening.
* The one criticism, and this is a common one, is that their documentation falls short.
Jul 07, 2006 06:42 PM|LINK
Just getting ready to post this thread myself. Question to poster, are you using the lastest version of Netadvantage 2006 V2. I downloaded the demo. Haven't had much time to play with it but the tabs look pretty decent. I like the scheduling piece. Of
course I haven't gotten into layout that much so I'm curious if you are using their latest version.
Looks like they have some documentation and I like the way they have preset style sheets and images to where you can layout a control without having to create images, layout the style for simple stuff.
My hold ups, Telerik doesn't give you source unless you buy 5 user licenses. 1 license is expensive enough and I'd hate to have a situation where they went out of business and my company having rolled out many apps with their controls.
I've tried calling sales and haven't gotten an answer. I left a vmail 30 minutes ago so that kind of worries, if a company won't even answer sales calls makes me worry about support. But looks like the reponse here is that they are good.
I'm trying to play with each product as I have time, but I'd really love to hear other feedback on both of these products or even other competitive products.
Jul 07, 2006 08:23 PM|LINK
Could you also specify the level of support you have. For like $249 you can get priority support with like 24 hour turn around or instant messaging.
Also, I would have to say I called into sales and they at least answered the phone. I'm not advocating NetAdvantage because I honestly haven't made up my mind.
The big thing about them is source code. Telerik is 3 years old and if you don't by 5 user licenses, you don't get source which again scares me if they go belly up.
Please anybody else provide feedback. I'm still on the fence.
Jul 10, 2006 01:35 PM|LINK
Jul 10, 2006 02:14 PM|LINK
I'm definitely open to looking at other products. But time is important and those two at least appear to have taken enough time to put together thorough websites to display their products, list pricing etc. obout, to me the site is a little lacking. I
don't really see examples in real world that would make me believe the product is robust. There is no pricing I see on the website or at least if there is it's somewhere that I'm not going to take in more time in trying to find it.
Plus, where is your grid control? That's really the most important thing and also, where are examples of how to subcategorize info in a grid, how to use a combo to display a drop down grid, calendar etc. I'm not bashing your product but you asked about
other sites and the others I have looked at are about the same quality and that's what's got me down to telerik and Netadvantage. I don't have all day everyday to go through a bunch of stuff. Right now these products do what I need, I'm just concerned about
solid performance, tech support types of stuff right now unless there is another product that gives me as much or more. The tools contain as many menu that make configuration a snap and then at a better price. (That in my opinion is where these two are vulnerable
but the reason for the thread, I'm still waiting on feedback from others to factor in with my decision.)
I'm open to others and I appreciate the link but what I've seen wouldn't entice me to spend any more of my time considering obout as an option compared to either Telerik or NetAdvantage.
Jul 10, 2006 02:26 PM|LINK
Jul 10, 2006 03:32 PM|LINK
You are correct, image I guess is a part of it. But what I'm trying to say. I don't want to spend any more time than I need to trying to find a good product. What the sites give me is since they have a good variety of working examples, I can look at them
and say to myself, ok I run into situations to where that would be helpful, this would be helpful, that would be helpful etc. Now the next phase is whether they're support is helpful enough to where if I need to have an overlay grid display from a button
in a column. How painful is it for me to learn or will their support respond and have me going in a couple or hours. Or do I have to waste 2 weeks of my time trying to figure out how to do one thing. If the latter, when I'm already learning, Project 2003,
CRM 3.0, their SDK's, SBA, etc,etc, you get the picture.
Again, thanks for the response and I'll keep you on a list for future reference.
Jul 10, 2006 05:25 PM|LINK
Well I have used both Telrik components and infragistics components in several projects But Since beginning of the year we switched everything over to telerik components.
Ofcourse the valid html and acessibillity of the components is a real plus for the Telerik components. Especially I f you have some governments clients. They ensist on the features.
Funbctionality wise both telerik and infragistics can help you develop advanced web applications on short periods of time.
Support of the Telerik compnents are by far the most superior. There is a great support community through forums and If you cannot find a solution there the Telerik support people are always very fast and supportive with code samples complete test applications
or in one of my cases a temporary inbetween bugfix build to help me deliver my app on time. As for Infragistics I had to wait up to a week for soem sort of support.
I have seen numerous of my feature suggestion been included in smaller or bigger updates, this is a real pro. They realy seem to listen to there customers.
Infragistics was always very heavy in the use of too much html nested tables inline scripts and more. Telerik components also started out that way in the beginning but they got cleaner and cleaner semanticaly correct, there are stil some table based components
but no more heavy nested table structures with much better use of css.
Version conflicts, updating older apps that used old Infragitiscs components was a real nightmare, missing functions changed functions missing functionalities other html code generation. I had these with Telerik as well but much less severe and better documented.
Changing designs of controls through templates or themes is much better supported in the telerik components. Either base on an internal template system or cmpletely through css.
And the thing I like best is the cleintside functionality, almost every serverside functionality has a cleintside version as well, so if there is no need for a post or callback you dont have to it.
Jul 11, 2006 09:11 AM|LINK
I'm also recommending the Telerik r.a.d.controls suite. When you have this license you can use all of the controls from the suite: 17 in total! Plus almost every year controls are beeing added to the suite.
Of course you can buy them seperate.
The support is very good. Always an answer to you questions and a great forum with lots of users that can/will help you if you're stuck with a specific solutions.
The controls are very easy to deploy (not with Infragistics) and easy to develop. Easy to setup and configure using the VS2005 designer functionality.
So, if you want some great controls with great support (if needed) then go for the Telerik Suite. You can always download a trial for your local domain!