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Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

RhemaConcepts — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:29:11 GMT

Hello all,

As the owner of Rhema Concepts (formerly rhemadesign.net), I would like to clarify that although we are a reseller, we do NOT use those accounts for hosting DNN. We have our own Windows 2003 Standard Edition servers that we use for DNN hosting. I just wanted that made clear, as I see some saying otherwise. Perhaps that is not clear enough on our web site, but notice we specify we have SPECIAL hosting packages for DNN.

We run our own servers, even though we also act as a reseller. We use our own servers for corporate and specialized hosting, such as DNN.

Thanks. :)

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

aaava — Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:26:28 GMT

Well, I guess I don't understand the rationalizations here or whatever. There's some people w/beefs w/godaddy. that's fer sure. Then there are people w/3 or so posts defending them. Whatever. My advice is to just go to http://www.northcomp.com. He's a smale company, does shared hosting for DNN, does co-lo for 50/month for 1u, and no, I don't get paid a dime. The dude answers the toll free number himself. So, perhaps godaddy is fine, perhaps not. Don't know. IMO, by trying to respond here, on this forum, folks are just bringing this issue to the top each time. Better to just let it go. It's the opinion of a few people so far. W/godaddy's prices, I doubt they'll be goin' out of business any time soon. Just let it go is my advice.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

BenZine — Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:45:21 GMT

I seldom parry with the ill-equipped, but portvista is out of line.

portv, you seemed to have feelings toward GoDaddy when you penned:
"Ok so to sum up:
GoDaddy sucks at hosting DNN, and also sucks in general."

When Mr. Parsons made his mark with a small midwestern company that, at one point, had somewhere around 4% of the sales of software licenses in the US, he was not in the hosting business. Hosting is a natural outgrowth of domain registration.

Your statements lead one to believe that pureplay companies are the only kinds of companies that you 'look for'. So,
Google should not be in the gMail business, eh? Do you believe Google will not acquire GoDaddy at some point, and be in the hosting business?

Things to look for in your site host:
-- Redundant big pipes (OC48, eh?), and from multiple suppliers
-- 24/7 email and phone support
-- Owned datacenter
-- Growth path, should your needs exceed a shared account ... ie, the ability to have your 1Us and 2Us in a the same cabinet

Oh, wait, we cannot even begin a checklist for the sitehost until we understand the kind of traffic expected and type of media being served. 10,000 unique daily visitors to read online text is much different than 100 unique daily visitors downloading a 5mb training video.

ServerBeach is a fine host. So is MaximumASP. So is 1&1. So are Webhost4Life, GoDaddy, CrystalTech, and Interland. A dozen more can be added to any host list. But, defining the services needed from the host (handholding, response time, 'guarantees', and the like) is nearly always specific to a site. There are no 'one size fits all' companies in the hosting services space.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

portvista — Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:30:28 GMT

What's funny is that every one of these posts praises GoDaddy, yet make arguments against them without realizing it. I have no feelings toward GoDaddy actually. I have a domain there.

The founder of GoDaddy made his mark by SELLING his company. In the tech industry you aspire to do 3 things: sell, acquire, or go public. I really doubt that hosting is really on Bob Parson's mind at age 60 or however old he is.

What I look for in a hosting company:
1. Phone & Email Support is knowledgeable and gets things done. I don't care how nice they are like how you guys are making excuses for their mistakes.
2. Hosting company specializes in HOSTING. Not domain registration. Not selling T-shirts. Not making super bowl commercials. And not selling out to Intuit.
3. Performance - money back guarantee is nice.

Take a look at http://www.serverbeach.com as an example. They are completely opposite of GoDaddy. They ONLY sell dedicated hosting. They aren't out trying to make a name, claiming how many awards they one, and how great everything thinks they are. They even have forums open to the public. You could go in there and badmouth the company, and some people do. Now how many companies can you say are that open?

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

BenZine — Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:20:56 GMT

Hmmm...

Portvista is cranking away on one of the 'good guys' in the industry.

It doesn't take much research to find that Bob Parsons (founder of GoDaddy) made his mark back in the 80s and 90s with his own homegrown software company. His sale of the eponymous Parsons Software to Intuit garnered him something like $100 million. ( http://www.bobparsons.com/Mybio_cat.html )

Also, Bob makes no attempt to 'hide' the interrelationships of his companies. See the About Us link on any of the GoDaddy pages, or just go here: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/about.asp?se=%2B&ci=290

So, they may be having a few issues with their initial foray in hosting, and specifically in DNN host, but you can be certain that the company will get to the bottom of the problems, resolve them, and be one of the top DNN hosts within 6 months.

I've never met Bob Parsons, but I have purchased dozens of domain names through GoDaddy, and used to buy software from his company. I don't host anything there (yet), but certainly expect to host client sites there in the near future. I doubt if I'll buy the T-shirts, tho....

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

mannyd — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:01:33 GMT

wild west domains is a child company of go daddy that offers reseller accounts. the secureserver and securepay domains are just generic dns naming so reseller customers do not see the company behind the reseller just like any other webhost that does resellers stuff. the phone number is a local arizona number, just call the number and there will be someone to help you.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

portvista — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 03:12:47 GMT

Ok so to sum up:
GoDaddy sucks at hosting DNN, and also sucks in general.

I did notice they did NOT have a toll-free number on their site -- guess none of their 650 employees care to answer phones.

Remember GoDaddy was the one who sued Network Solutions for predatory marketing practices and won, which is probably what funded this start-up company.

GoDaddy also hides behind these domains for whatever reason:
wildwestdomains.com = godaddy
SECURESERVER.NET = godaddy
securepaynet.net = godaddy

BUT, they DO sell T-Shirts! Does your ISP do that???

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

ronhuszar — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:28:59 GMT

http://www.rhemadesign.net is a GoDaddy reseller from everything I find.

There offering the same items and if your look there sites are very similar. I checked out the reseller options on GoDaddy and for 99.00 a year you can have a site like theres. There both offering WebSite Tonight, Starlight SSL certificates which is a wholly owned by GoDaddy. If you do a close comparison they are the same. The server used to sign up has the same subdirectory name and structure as the main GoDaddy site.

There's no way they could be anything other then a Godaddy reseller.

Ron

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

mannyd — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:39:09 GMT

They use their own SMTP Relay server, smtpout.secureserver.net. You can send out 250 emails per day. As it stands right now, we got the shared hosting install steps for dnn down to 4 I think. It is true that you have to put the install into a subdirectory. The application infrastructure people say that being to do this on root is on the roadmap though. Use a subdomain mask on your domain if you'd like. Yes, the reseller accounts are very easy to spot (Just like my airdepth.net one) , well the general ones anyways (they sell an API if you want to use your own custom web design)

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

ywkyee — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:42:15 GMT

I am doubt if http://www.rhemadesign.net/ is a reseller of godaddy.com, as i think that maybe a good hosting for me i will choice later on, but now i heard all -ve impression from godaddy.com, what should i supposed to do? I would like to choice their deluxe plan for my 1st dnn3 portal soon.

someone told godaddy.com does not allow rely SMTP, but that is one thing i need at least. any comments? or any +ve comment on godaddy.com for reference?

Davis.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

jhonz — Tue, 31 May 2005 13:53:14 GMT

I think they are just a reseller for godaddy.com. I have a similar site for domains.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

jhonz — Tue, 31 May 2005 13:47:53 GMT

Sorry for the delay in response. I was out having fun on Memorial day.

Paid about $160 per month for their premium box. Pentium 4, win 2003 Standard, 2 gigs of Ram. Only 1 Hard Drive, though.

I thought it was very fast in comparision to what I was used to. I really could see how fast things could run if you didn't have to push content over the internet. DNN pages aren't light.

That included a steep discount for paying a year in advance.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

portvista — Mon, 30 May 2005 18:22:01 GMT

Ok that's even worse corker! I don't know why you guys even defend GoDaddy at all -- what's so great about their domain registration? How hard is it to mess up that? Ohhhh maybe by trying to upsell you on 100 different things and make it impossible for the average person to get a domain. Most of my clients pay me to register domains, because they come back saying they didn't know how to answer all those questions. Same thing with Network Solutions.

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

corker — Mon, 30 May 2005 16:01:33 GMT

I too had a horrible experience with Godaddy and DNN. I intended to use their Deluxe shared hosting plan with a DNN installation.

The first problem I ran into was that the DNN installation has to go into a subdirectory and you don't have access to this subdirectory. The domain had to be www.yourdomain.com/dnn. Well what is the point of this? It rather defeats the purpose don't you think. They said the only way around this was to have a page redirect. Well I didn't want to have to do that but thank you very much. Now I like to tweak and modify and that is basically out of the question not having access to this dnn subdirectory. The only tweaking you will be doing is through the DNN web interface.

The next problem was db connectivity. Well fine I will upload my own DNN installation and utilize their SQL Server in order to get what I want. Wrong, your db connection from the web app is blocked as described above. Again (GoDaddy) nothing we can do about that. Their support was friendly and involved but that is only worth so much when their services are sooo locked down.

Again a good company for domain registration/management but I think they should reconsider hosting DNN. I realize that you get what you pay for and this was one of the cheaper plans around but I am very happy with Webhost4life. Especially at $9.95 a month :)

Re: godaddy dedicated server horror story for DNN installation

aaava — Mon, 30 May 2005 14:15:17 GMT

Well, whether best practice or not is besides the point. The point to me is that he is promised all these things and the sales folks and custoemr service people appear to feed from each other's hands, or have no clue, depending on your level of skepticism.

Personally, I'd rather stick w/a smallish ISP, and not have to worry about the above 'best practice' stuff, since I know the ISP owner and if there's ever an issue w/spam gettin' abused on port 25, he'll just *take care of it*.

And 'best practices' is a well-overused term. Best practice for *who*? Not us customers...though of course it gets twisted into that because, 'well, we'll be able to spend less time worrying about a *potential* problem that has never happened to us, but just might, and yada yada....'

We've been in that situation. Heck, I won't even have anything to do w/domain management anymore. I leave all that to partners.