Mobile and Handheld Devices

Re: Why NO .mobi rules ?

enewmen — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:54:49 GMT

I was able to see the http://wtime.mobi/mobi/wtime/DefaultPC.aspx site.

It looks good, got a score of "5", and I see it's using

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

Noticed it's not using 
<!DOCTYPE html
PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN" "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/xhtml-mobile10.dtd">

Can this site be made using normal Web Forms? (Visual Studio 2008) Or did it need to use the special mobile controls?

Any guidelines you suggest when making web forms for mobile browsers?

Thanks! I'm searching hard.

Re: Why NO .mobi rules ?

tony_dotnet — Sun, 06 May 2007 19:43:28 GMT

Thanks! STK_01, but could you pls give me a simple sample asp.net web page that it can get 5 score of .MOBI rules? about teh score of a .mobi site, just click here to test. http://ready.mobi/index.html

I tried to fix many times for my http://wtime.mobi (which I create it using ASP.NET), it still can not get 5 score .

Thanks!

Re: Why NO .mobi rules ?

SKT_01 — Fri, 04 May 2007 05:12:57 GMT

dotMobi does not define which standards are used for mobile web developement, e. g. example they recommend to use XHTML Mobile Profile while the Mobile Web Initiative MWI of W3C has choosen XHTML Basic.

I think that the recommendations of dotMobi are essentiallly part of a marketing strategy for the domain .mobi.

It is possible to develop mobile web sites conform to dotMobi recommendations with ASP.NET. You have to use Web Forms or you can use Mobile Web Forms. But the ASP.NET Mobile Controls have a different - I think obsolete - concept: The Adaptive Rendering, i. e. output of content and markup language depending on the device. Therfore you have to default the mobile application to XHTMl-MP for example to avoid this behavior.

In the discussion about mobile web development are in my opinion the follwing points to consider:

There is a convergence between mobile and desktop browsers, i. e. mobile browsers take over more and more the capabilities of their desktop pendants. Windows Mobile 6 Internet Explorer Mobile, Nokias S60 or ACCESS NetFront are examples of this trend. These browsers implement features to view desktop web sites on mobile devices. Therefore it is not necessary to develop completely different mobile web sites.
One has to keep in mind that the market for mobile browsing is not very large.

Re: Why NO .mobi rules ?

tony_dotnet — Fri, 04 May 2007 02:59:50 GMT

Nobody answer me?

I really wanna use asp.net to develop my .mobi site, I am waiting.....

Why NO .mobi rules ?

tony_dotnet — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:34:10 GMT

I have registered some .mobi domain names. Recently I wanna develop them. I tried to use VS 2005 Mobile Web Application to create some .mobi websites.

I created a very simple Mobile web application like just put One mobile textbox control on the page and then upload my remote .net hosing space. it works surely. however, When I tried to test whether this website obey .MOBI rules (via http://ready.mobi/index.html), the testing website display error message : "Your markup is not supported by the ready.mobi report tool. Ready.mobi is designed to test (X)HTML pages, and results for other markup languages may not be meaningful. Markup language identified as WML "

Then I tried to do not use .net mobile web application, just use asp.net 2.0 regular web application , created another very simple page to upload my hosting space again, this time the testing system can get result, but I just got 2 score (Bad Level).

So these mean VS 2005 can not develop .MOBI websites?

Thanks!