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Re: Text editor - first impressions

gerrylowry — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:32:14 GMT

mbanavige:
... i much prefer the behavior of the new editor. If we copy the part of that page that is actually a link though, then we get this:
#21 | Validation with the Data Annotation ValidatorsView in VB or C#

So it doesn't seem like a bug to me.

Actually, Mike, I just discovered that the *new* editor is BUGGY when it comes to copying links; please see http://forums.asp.net/p/1444886/3282888.aspx#3282888.

In fact, the link that you copied above is broken ... neither of us noticed that because we are used to links being copied correctly.

Gerry

Re: Text editor - first impressions

rtpHarry — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:36:13 GMT

Another issue I noticed:

I clicked "quote" when replying to this thread and when I posted it up it had two copies of the source code snippet.

http://forums.asp.net/p/1444032/3278433.aspx#3278433

Re: Text editor - first impressions

gerrylowry — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:48:07 GMT

I am guessing there was some update to the text editor because my spell check button is back on the message toolbar, top row, third icon from the right where it used to be until it disappeared.

(for me, the good thing about its disappearance is that I now know that, via right click, I can use ieSpell outside (and inside too) of forums.asp.net. This means I can use spell check via ieSpell in quite a number of applications. So much to learn, so little time)

Re: Text editor - first impressions

gerrylowry — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:40:43 GMT

@ mbanavige

mbanavige:

gerrylowry:
OLD EDITOR: I stretch *this* textarea Window ~~ size persists. Not in the new editor.

I am not having any problems with the editor remembering its size after i stretch it to become larger. Seems to work the same as before.

Not sure why but for me, mostly it forgets. Occassionally, it remembers. I've as of yet to determine why. gerry

Re: Text editor - first impressions

mbanavige — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:49:01 GMT

It looks like that error text was pasted into the post using the code paste with C# as the selected language. Since it's not actually c# code (not actually code at all), using the syntax highlighter isn't really appropriate for it. So i snipped the pre tag out that triggers the syntaxhighlighter and it turned into the error string that the member originally posted.

Re: Text editor - first impressions

rtpHarry — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:59:35 GMT

Hey I have another feature difference between IE8/Win7 and FF3/Vista

In this thread:

http://forums.asp.net/t/1441312.aspx

The code pasted turns itself into a three line output and wraps itself around on IE8 (ie - it has lines 1, 2, 3 in the gutter and line 3 is very long and wraps round to form another 40 or so lines)

On FF3 this morning I come back and its a two line output with no wrapping on FF3 (ie - it has line 1 in the gutter, splits on the two <br> tags and then travels off right into infinity with a very long horizontal scroll bar).

Means that the message is basically unreadable for FF3 readers (however View Plain is a usable workaround - just not colour highlighting)

I guess its just something to watch out for after the 2.0 upgrade.

Re: Text editor - first impressions

gerrylowry — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:27:35 GMT

mbanavige:
sounds like you might have something odd going on with your pc ... iexplore pagefaulting, power glitches...

Hi Mike ~~ the power glitches are from the power going off twice today ~~ not usually a problem for me because I use a 1500va APC UPS ~~ my DSL modem dropped which caused some frustration but no direct impact. The page faults are because I've only got 512 MB in that computer. If I had $100, I'd replace that with 4GB ~~ for now, I'll just have to suffer with the page faults. Some programs seem to churn more than others. It's not always clear how they get started. Example, I had to kill Jave Quickstart (JQS.exe) which has a horrible reputation for sucking up resources. I think a recent Java update must have brought it back to life. SQL Server seems to like to do a lot when it should be doing nothing at all since we are talking about a computer used mostly for e-mail. So many mysteries, so little time.

mbanavige:
ps: this post was from Chrome

Before, mainly only IE7 behaved well. I hoped they not sacrificied compatibility with IE7 to gain compatibility with everything else.

Regards,
Gerry (Lowry)

Re: Text editor - first impressions

mbanavige — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:13:55 GMT

gerrylowry:
while waiting, tried chrome: sign does not work with chrome ... clicked buttom many times, never got the sign in screen.

I just signed in with Chrome. Didnt run into any problems myself. New editor popped right up too (yeah! no more user-agent trickery).

sounds like you might have something odd going on with your pc ... iexplore pagefaulting, power glitches...

ps: this post was from Chrome

Re: Text editor - first impressions

mbanavige — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:09:52 GMT

gerrylowry:
OLD EDITOR: I stretch *this* textarea Window ~~ size persists. Not in the new editor.

I am not having any problems with the editor remembering its size after i stretch it to become larger. Seems to work the same as before.

Re: Text editor - first impressions

mbanavige — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:51:37 GMT

The old editor produced this:

#21 | Validation with the Data Annotation ValidatorsView in VB or C#

So the old editor did not paste that text as a link and it did paste #21 | as bold (or more specifically as <strong>#21 | </strong>). The old editor did introduce an extra underline style that did not exist - perhaps leading you to believe you had pasted a functioning link when you hadn't.

In this case, i much prefer the behavior of the new editor. It seems to have accurately produced the same markup that you copied from that page. That text in that page is not a link itself. The text and the image above it together are wrapped in a link. Since you copied only the text and not the image, you did not actually copy the containing link tag and/or its href. since you did not have the actual link tag on the clipboard with its href, i don't see how the editor here would be able to do anything other than what it did.

If we copy the part of that page that is actually a link though, then we get this:

#21 | Validation with the Data Annotation ValidatorsView in VB or C#

So it doesn't seem like a bug to me.

Re: Text editor - first impressions

tmorton — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:48:02 GMT

gerrylowry:
IE7, WinXP Pro SP3

Just found another BUG in the new editor:

from http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/#MVC_Security I cut and paste into the new editor:

#21 | Validation with the Data Annotation ValidatorsView in VB or C#

Note: Validation with the Data Annotation Validators does not paste as a link. It did in the old editor.

Note: #21 | pastes as bold. If my recollection is correct, it did not do that on the old editor.

*shrug*, works for me in the same environment: http://forums.asp.net/p/1440199/3261799.aspx#3261799

Edit: actually, the link is not correct. Mike's answer is better.

Re: Text editor - first impressions

gerrylowry — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:08:24 GMT

IE7, WinXP Pro SP3

Just found another BUG in the new editor:

from http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/#MVC_Security I cut and paste into the new editor:

#21 | Validation with the Data Annotation ValidatorsView in VB or C#

Note: Validation with the Data Annotation Validators does not paste as a link. It did in the old editor.

Note: #21 | pastes as bold. If my recollection is correct, it did not do that on the old editor.

Regards,
Gerry (Lowry)

Re: Text editor - first impressions

gerrylowry — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:29:13 GMT

mbanavige:
gerrylowry:
my spell checker has disappeared
if you're using ieSpell, then it's just a right click away. Just right click and select "Check Spelling"

yes, I am using ieSpell ~~ I've been teaching my customers for decades "when in doubt, right click" ~~ I did not do that because I've done so many posts where I clicked the spell check button on the toolbar that clicking the spell check button has become a wired into my brain habit.

The spell check button has disappeared; fortunately, the right click works.

OLD EDITOR: I stretch *this* textarea Window ~~ size persists. Not in the new editor.

Gerry

Please note: ieSpell is really slow with the new editor. I only have 512MB with WinXP Pro SP3 and IE7 ... iexplore.exe causes a lot of page faults, way more than Symantec's Rtvscan.exe. I wonder if there are design issues with the new editor?

ieSpell bonus: while not everywhere, I just realized there are other places outside of forums.asp.net where I can use ieSpell by right-clicking.

MORE NOTES: had a power glitch had to shut down ie7.

while waiting, tried chrome: sign does not work with chrome ... clicked buttom many times, never got the sign in screen.

Re: Text editor - first impressions

mbanavige — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:46:11 GMT

gerrylowry:
my spell checker has disappeared

if you're using ieSpell, then it's just a right click away. Just right click and select "Check Spelling"

Re: Text editor - first impressions

tmorton — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:38:08 GMT

Thanks for the feedback. I've picked the issues out of this thread and have added them to the known issues.

The jury is still out on the performance, so I have not added that. And we still have some adjustments to do on the source code highlighter (moving to a newer version for one), so I've not added any new formatting issues.