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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forums.asp.net/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Getting Started</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/15.aspx</link><description>The perfect forum for ASP.NET novices. No question too simple! &lt;A href="http://aspadvice.com/SignUp/list.aspx?l=21&amp;amp;c=17" target=_blank&gt;Email List&lt;/A&gt;</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 SP1 (Build: 20510.895)</generator><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3276007.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:32:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3276007</guid><dc:creator>mudassarkhan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3276007.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3276007</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;You don&amp;#39;t need to close or open everything is handled by that MS Lib you just need to call ur Stored proc or queries and get results&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Refer these articles&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://forums.asp.net/122.aspx"&gt;http://forums.asp.net/122.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/articles/070203-1.aspx"&gt;http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/articles/070203-1.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.codeproject.com/KB/database/MS_Application_Blocks.aspx"&gt;http://www.codeproject.com/KB/database/MS_Application_Blocks.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/ASP.NET/Developing-ASPNET-20-Applications-with-the-Microsoft-Data-Access-Application-Block/"&gt;http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/ASP.NET/Developing-ASPNET-20-Applications-with-the-Microsoft-Data-Access-Application-Block/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275988.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:15:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3275988</guid><dc:creator>safzal1212</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275988.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3275988</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Can you please elaborate your question a bit. The only suggestion that I can give to you is use n-tier architecuture if you have a good size project. If the application you are writting is small then don&amp;#39;t use n-tier. In case of small size project create folders for classes inside app_code folder and don&amp;#39;t add&amp;nbsp; multiple tiers. I would recommend stored procedures in any case.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275949.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:59:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3275949</guid><dc:creator>vikvish1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275949.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3275949</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for reply...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but reply my following question if u know..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Where I can find software or website addess which tell me / or shows me what &amp;nbsp;kind of the errors in my web site and which code I copied…? &lt;strong&gt;and also show me or tell me which scripts is open ot close&lt;/strong&gt;....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i have downloaded and install the Data Access Application Block software.. but its not runnin properly &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wel i m using asp.net 2.0 with sql server 2005.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will wait for your reply &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with regards &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;vik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275197.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:03:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3275197</guid><dc:creator>mudassarkhan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275197.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3275197</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;1. Get or Create a Datahelper library. You can download MS Data Access Block which will take care of all connection related issues&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f63d1f0a-9877-4a7b-88ec-0426b48df275"&gt;http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f63d1f0a-9877-4a7b-88ec-0426b48df275&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Create a Data Access Layer to execute stored procs (Create a Class Library)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Create Business Layer to perform busniess logic, validations and call the Data Access Layer methods (Create a Class Library)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. UI will call the Business layer methods &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus this leads to 3 layer architecture&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275175.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:25:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3275175</guid><dc:creator>srinivaskotra</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275175.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3275175</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this link will brief you about three trir architecture and samples&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beansoftware.com/ASP.NET-Tutorials/Three-Tier-Architecture.aspx"&gt;http://www.beansoftware.com/ASP.NET-Tutorials/Three-Tier-Architecture.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.codeproject.com/KB/architecture/three_tier_architecture.aspx"&gt;http://www.codeproject.com/KB/architecture/three_tier_architecture.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275119.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:27:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3275119</guid><dc:creator>hs_jha</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3275119.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3275119</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;vikvish1 ,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A sizable portion of software industry works on software maintenance.This needs you to work in team , have a planned arrchitecture.There are times when you need to understand and complete the leftovers of the programmer who worked previously. This needs a standard pattern which every one can understand.This is where you need an architecture.3 tier is the most popular one but there are couple more like MVC architecture as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is no problem if you do not adopt these architecture and go on coding like what is called a bare-bone programming for your personal applications.But when you return back to your codes after 2-3 years to improve it you may not remember where you had written what.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So better go systematic than random to plan a system.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This forum has a very nice tutorial series by Scott Mitchell for 3 tier architecture at&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://www.asp.net/learn/data-access/?lang=cs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274904.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:47:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3274904</guid><dc:creator>abdelnaby</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274904.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3274904</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;use&amp;nbsp;linQ&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274806.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3274806</guid><dc:creator>Segundo</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274806.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3274806</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;Hi,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is a&amp;nbsp;good serie of articles about layered applications:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://imar.spaanjaars.com/QuickDocId.aspx?quickdoc=476"&gt;http://imar.spaanjaars.com/QuickDocId.aspx?quickdoc=476&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any doubt, post your comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274763.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:09:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3274763</guid><dc:creator>ctheriault</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274763.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3274763</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The strategy of n-Tiers (3-tiers) architecture, is develop your application in layers which are communicating with each other using a simple (and well documented) interface. It purpose is to insulate the complexity and rules within each layer to avoid having side effect on other layers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;if your &amp;quot;data access&amp;quot; layer is over Oracle, and you decide to change it later for &amp;quot;Linq over SQL-Server&amp;quot;, you would re-engineer only this layer, without any impact on the rest of the application (presentation layer + business rules layer)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;if your presentation layer is Windows form and you want to change for ASP.NET, Silverlight, AJAX, ..., you should be able to reuse near 100% of the data access layer and business rules layer.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;and so on&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;n-Tier architecture is also convenience to slip up the work between many software development teams, each layer is like a sub-product.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That you choose to use SQL (strored proc) or C# to implement business logic is a decision that should be made taking &amp;quot;maintenance&amp;quot; into consideration, and sometimes performance depending if you want to move load to your DB server or from your DB server. Chosing one way or the other should be a balanced decision. I personnaly often chose to perform the processing in C# because it is powerful to create dynamic query (espicially with LINQ), but I also&amp;nbsp;have store procs to handle some critical parts in T-SQL to spare network communication overheat with DB server.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274578.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:17:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3274578</guid><dc:creator>nijhawan.saurabh</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274578.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3274578</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Three tier applications are basically for supporting development(making development of a project in a team simpler) and has nothing to do with performence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;More over 3 tier technique helps in code reuse and hence further helps you in a way!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>need suggestions</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274290.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:39:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3274290</guid><dc:creator>vikvish1</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3274290.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=15&amp;PostID=3274290</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello there..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have questions and hoping for reply&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well I am working asp.net 2.0 with ajaxtoolkit&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol start="1"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What is the best approach to coding… like in three architecture…? Like class file &amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;store procedure and coding…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol start="2"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;if we not work like three architecture then is there any difference.. if we do jst coding and use aonly procedures with con.open and con.close..? any drawbacks?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Where I can find software or website addess which tell me / or shows me what &amp;nbsp;kind of the errors in my web site and which code I copied…?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hoping for reply &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With Regards &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;vik&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>