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Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

ibrahimersoy — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:45:32 GMT

well this argument goes on forever.You will see which is better or which is not.

you will choose the best language for you.

But i would say:ASP.NET With C# is the best.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

porov — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:13:03 GMT

I dont care what is better than the 2 only thing i care about is rad and ease of use, i find asp.net very intuitive and easy to use, i just love it.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

Everah — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:32:52 GMT

Use whichever language you are most confortable with. Or if you feel like getting adventurous, choose a new one. I learned web app development is PHP (MySQL and Apache in combo), then picked up ASP 3.0 (SQL Server and IIS combo). I am learning ASP.NET right now and testing it using Access, MySQL and SQL Server. So far .NET (C#) and PHP are almost identical to me (except some of the built in features of the .NET framework). When I need to build an app quickly, and my clients support it, I go with PHP because I am faster at it and a lot more knowledgeable in it. However, when developing for myself I develop in .NET just so I can learn.

As far as hosting goes, JodoHost (www.jodohost.com) has an incredible package that you can host on a Windows server running PHP, ColdFusion or .NET. They also give you a free MySQL database, a free SQL Server database and a free PostgreSQL database and unlimited DSN for access. They also let you host up to three domains all for only $6.95 per month so cost is not an issue and you can choose which language you want to code in for each individual page if you like.

So I guess the long and short of it is, cost is not so much an issue so go with what you are most comfortable with.

PS. One nice thing about PHP is the community that supports it (same with apache, MySQL and PostgreSQL). So far the open source community has blown the windows development community out of the water when it comes to getting help, code samples and friendly answers to newbie and even stupid questions..

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

voodoo9055 — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:25:06 GMT

ASP 3.0 from what I remember was harder to maintain. I will never develop in it again.

PHP 4.0 was pretty easy to learn and use. It was still an interpreted language. It took me a long time to develop anything in it though. Hosting is very extremely cheap.

ASP.Net is amazing. I love that it is compiled and object oriented which (if done correctly) can be very easy to maintain. Hosting was expensive at first, but prices have come down a lot. Some hosting is as cheap as PHP hosting now.

MySQL is a very easy to learn database. There are third party GUI available for it (similar to Enterprise Manager in MS SQL Server). I haven't look at MySQL in a while, but I don't think it supports Stored Procedures, Views, User Defined Functions, or Triggers. I may be wrong.

SQL Server. Good database.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

yaoyouyou — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:48:03 GMT

linux+php +apache+PostgreSQL.
you can use PostgreSQL instead of MySQL

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

subdigital — Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:06:04 GMT

JordanF wrote:
PHP is more secure.

A language or technology is only as secure as the person developing in it. You can develop an insecure website with PHP just as easily as ASP.NET (in fact, I'd say that ASP.NET gives you a security jump over PHP for the incredibly oblivous or naive developer).

JordanF wrote:
ASP.NET is faster than PHP4. PHP5 and ASP.NET perform about the same. ASP.NET is known for exploits when running on IIS. PHP is cross-platform. ASP.NET is windows only.
PHP is free and less costly to use.
ASP.NET web hosting is very expensive. It really depends on what you want to do. What will be the size of this eCommerce site? For larger sites, ASP and Microsoft SQL are your best bet. MySQL is not suitable for large websites unless InnoDB or Merge tables are used, as well as proper database design.

These are not concrete statements. The general idea is correct, but you should also consider:

Performance is probably the LAST thing you should consider I think. These days, people talk about performance like it will make all the difference between a successful app and a failed one. This is usually not the case. Pick the right tool for the job, always.

ASP.NET web hosting is NOT costly. We can host simple web apps for $5/month at my job. You can find this same deal at many hosts. SQL server databases only increase the cost a little bit, but you can EASILY use MySQL to make the overall cost cheaper.

MySQL is perfectly suited for a large application, given the database is designed correctly.

ASP.NET apps run pretty well on Mono in a Linux environment, which means that it is also cross platform.

Nowadays I write all of my web applications in ASP.NET because my productivity sky-rockets over ASP, PHP, Cold Fusion,etc. This is the deciding factor for me. It is up to you to see exactly what you are best in.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

vikasumit — Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:24:17 GMT

Hi,

I wWould Like you to chose it yourself. See what you have done all are start telling there points and from it I cannot make it to chose from?

I am PHP programmer and now learning ASP.Net, I haven't work on ASP but I have taken some winodws programming in VB6 and I know ASP is not much difference from it. PHP support OOPs, ASP.NET is based on OOPs. So, The main contrains from real life between two languages is the Cost they have while chosing your server. And that is not a problem if you chose to get a Deticated server. They nearly have same price.

Both languages have its own benefits. I have read one line somewhere suggesting "Chosing between PHP and ASP.NET is more a debate on chosing between Linux and Winodws. Or Between "Open Source" and "Microsoft". " So place yourself in this and you get the answer.

And If you give me a option to chose I go with ASP.Net simply because I want to learn it and Want to have my own coded site in ASP.Net right now. (Thinking like a child who want to try new things around him )

Hope that this help you out

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

wswartzendruber — Thu, 19 May 2005 02:50:01 GMT

foolah wrote:
Vintious wrote:
JordanF took a little liberty with his claims. There have been no credible tests done comparing ASP.net with any version of PHP. ASP.net is cross-platform if use use Mono. There ARE less hosting options when you choose ASP.net, but you can find cheap ones too. (www.webhost4life.com for example). There are no known exploits when running the newest version of the Framework on IIS 6.0 (Windows Server 2003). PHP will never have ASP.net superior object oriented programming model, unless they remove all backwards compatibility. ASP.net's class library far surpasses PHP's group of methods. ASP.net 2.0's feature set will make common programming situations (such as your eCommerce site) very easy to implement. If you don't care about a well thought out and expandable architecture, and will just hack away with your code, PHP will work. I suggest you take a look at a .NET solution though.

Dude I'm not sure that PHP is not OOP. You havent there objects like in ASP.net but you can pre-set your own ;) ASP.net is not respecting W3C and W4D so indexing is "harder" for bots etc. Anything what is generated automaticly by ASP.net is horrible so I guess if that guy wanna start with eCommerce site firsttime is better PHP, coz there are no problem later to cross-over to any "platform/language"

PHP is free, hosting is easy and it doesnt matter if the page is bit faster or slower. Table is displaying after the browser has whole content (ASP.net generated) and Div is displaying content just downloading.

I've never had any problems with ASP.NET and W3C's XHTML validator.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

Xanderno — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:21:00 GMT

but OOP is not only ASP.net or .NET ... true

True. Java is also object-oriented. So SmallTalk. So is Eiffel. So is Objective-C.

Just because PHP offers some OO constructs, doesn't make it an OO language,. It isn't. VBScript allows you to define classes too. That doesn't make it object-oriented. PHP allows for classes, inheritance, other OO-type features, sure, but the use of the OOP model isn't enforced. The backbone of PHP is C-style functional programming...You can build a lifetime's worth of PHP applications without ever delving into OOP, so no, PHP is not an OO language.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

foolah — Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:55:49 GMT

Hmm dont thing so, what you mean OOP ? Object Oriented Programming ? You can make classes in PHP and over the params you can work with em, you wanna tell me that's not OOP ? I know its not like ASP.net (xy thousands objects and methods and god knows what else) but OOP is not only ASP.net or .NET ... true ?

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Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

Xanderno — Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:01:53 GMT

Dude I'm not sure that PHP is not OOP.

Then let me reassure you...PHP is *not* an OO language. PHP doesn't even *claim* to be an OO language. Neither are any of the languages that the PHP designers credit as inspiration, which more or less rules out PHP being OO.

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

foolah — Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:37:04 GMT

Vintious wrote:
JordanF took a little liberty with his claims. There have been no credible tests done comparing ASP.net with any version of PHP. ASP.net is cross-platform if use use Mono. There ARE less hosting options when you choose ASP.net, but you can find cheap ones too. (www.webhost4life.com for example). There are no known exploits when running the newest version of the Framework on IIS 6.0 (Windows Server 2003). PHP will never have ASP.net superior object oriented programming model, unless they remove all backwards compatibility. ASP.net's class library far surpasses PHP's group of methods. ASP.net 2.0's feature set will make common programming situations (such as your eCommerce site) very easy to implement. If you don't care about a well thought out and expandable architecture, and will just hack away with your code, PHP will work. I suggest you take a look at a .NET solution though.

Dude I'm not sure that PHP is not OOP. You havent there objects like in ASP.net but you can pre-set your own ;) ASP.net is not respecting W3C and W4D so indexing is "harder" for bots etc. Anything what is generated automaticly by ASP.net is horrible so I guess if that guy wanna start with eCommerce site firsttime is better PHP, coz there are no problem later to cross-over to any "platform/language"

PHP is free, hosting is easy and it doesnt matter if the page is bit faster or slower. Table is displaying after the browser has whole content (ASP.net generated) and Div is displaying content just downloading.

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Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

joteke — Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:17:31 GMT

see this:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html

Validity of this information has been discussed here:
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Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

javad_amel — Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:09:51 GMT

see this:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/hull_asp.html

Re: which is best PHP or ASP or ASP.NET

Boldrik — Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:58:42 GMT

I used to use PHP, but now I think that ASP.NET is better in every way