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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forums.asp.net/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ASP.NET Controls for Silverlight</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/1154.aspx</link><description>Discussions about how to support Silverlight within using the ASP.NET Controls for Silverlight.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 SP1 (Build: 20510.895)</generator><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3230334.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:43:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3230334</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3230334.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3230334</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/fan/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;billsm:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jedi:&amp;nbsp;I must admit&amp;nbsp;That&amp;nbsp;I am big fan of asp.net mvc and oop programming. Asp.net mvc &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;allows the programmer&amp;nbsp;to follow in a logical manner(along with the use of&amp;nbsp;jquery) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in my opinion&amp;nbsp; it is just so&amp;nbsp;much easier and logical so here is my suggestion &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.aspsite.com/blog/archive/2008/09/04/asp-net-mvc-application-building-family-video-website-3-play-videos-with-silverlight.aspx"&gt;http://www.aspsite.com/blog/archive/2008/09/04/asp-net-mvc-application-building-family-video-website-3-play-videos-with-silverlight.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is up to you what you decide however this is the way I would go...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;becuse it is easier and if you had any questions you would have the asp.net mvc, ajax &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;forum along with the regular silverlight forum....&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=61027"&gt;http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=61027&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; a tab control using images in silverlight &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;thx for the links on that. i have tried some mvc and its pretty nice. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3229887.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:59:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3229887</guid><dc:creator>billsm</dc:creator><author>billsm</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3229887.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3229887</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I forgot to mention one other item you will have to use some sort of data(xml or sql) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;along with your image..... &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I reccomend using linq(sql to linq) (linq to xml)&amp;nbsp;In case you are wondering what does Inotifypropertychanged method( it simply&amp;nbsp;notifies the item has changed&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You will have to do more research on your own however I&amp;nbsp;have given you a&amp;nbsp;start....&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3229881.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:53:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3229881</guid><dc:creator>billsm</dc:creator><author>billsm</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3229881.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3229881</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/forums/p/28765/94716.aspx#94716"&gt;http://silverlight.net/forums/p/28765/94716.aspx#94716&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/forums/p/38233/110590.aspx#110590"&gt;http://silverlight.net/forums/p/38233/110590.aspx#110590&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/forums/p/14737/49042.aspx#49042"&gt;http://silverlight.net/forums/p/14737/49042.aspx#49042&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I forget to mention you need to use I notify property changed if you are planning to use a use a web host you will need to use a servicehostfactory method in wcf &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wcf/thread/70842e92-f294-478a-94e7-f1b920056d84"&gt;http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wcf/thread/70842e92-f294-478a-94e7-f1b920056d84&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are a bunch of great post in silverlight.net I just gave you a small taste &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember silverlight 3 is coming out july 10!!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PLease do not use silverlight&amp;nbsp; 2 or 3 together that is only reserved for vs 2010&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;however you can install silverlight&amp;nbsp;3 alone.....&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3229559.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:49:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3229559</guid><dc:creator>billsm</dc:creator><author>billsm</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3229559.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3229559</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Jedi:&amp;nbsp;I must admit&amp;nbsp;That&amp;nbsp;I am big fan of asp.net mvc and oop programming. Asp.net mvc &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;allows the programmer&amp;nbsp;to follow in a logical manner(along with the use of&amp;nbsp;jquery) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in my opinion&amp;nbsp; it is just so&amp;nbsp;much easier and logical so here is my suggestion &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.aspsite.com/blog/archive/2008/09/04/asp-net-mvc-application-building-family-video-website-3-play-videos-with-silverlight.aspx"&gt;http://www.aspsite.com/blog/archive/2008/09/04/asp-net-mvc-application-building-family-video-website-3-play-videos-with-silverlight.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is up to you what you decide however this is the way I would go...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;becuse it is easier and if you had any questions you would have the asp.net mvc, ajax &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;forum along with the regular silverlight forum....&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=61027"&gt;http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=61027&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; a tab control using images in silverlight &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3227846.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:35:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3227846</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3227846.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3227846</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/fan/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;billsm:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=47177"&gt;http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=47177&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; a web service&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thx this video helped me with some thoughts i had about the silverlight to asp.net project. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;im gone try this now and maby ill answer my own question as i go with the project but i need to ask this. what i want to do is to add a multiple fileupload to a usercontrol where i got a form for fileupload and dropdowns and textboxes. but the question is on the button click on that form, can i loop through the silverlight upload and get the picture name?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;thx agin &lt;a href="http://forums.asp.net/members/billsm.aspx"&gt;billsm&lt;/a&gt; i apricate you taking your time.. that goes for all you that comented this.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3215369.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:42:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3215369</guid><dc:creator>billsm</dc:creator><author>billsm</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3215369.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3215369</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=47177"&gt;http://silverlight.net/learn/learnvideo.aspx?video=47177&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; a web service</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3215352.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:25:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3215352</guid><dc:creator>billsm</dc:creator><author>billsm</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3215352.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3215352</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.asp.net/learn/ajax-videos/video-172.aspx"&gt;http://www.asp.net/learn/ajax-videos/video-172.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you are right about ajax javascript or (jquery-available in asp.net mvc only)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;you do use script manager to work on the&amp;nbsp;html dom. &amp;nbsp;along with javascript etc &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember silverlight&amp;nbsp;essentially&amp;nbsp; is a html table&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It works on the client side,,,, &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc645076(VS.95).aspx"&gt;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc645076(VS.95).aspx&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; working with html dom&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Silverlight currently in the web edition works with wcf rest&amp;nbsp; sql as a web service &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you can use wpf for the intranet version &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://windowsclient.net/"&gt;http://windowsclient.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hoped&amp;nbsp;I explained this better and I wanted to show you exactly how it works.... &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3215344.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:14:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3215344</guid><dc:creator>billsm</dc:creator><author>billsm</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3215344.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3215344</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Please remember this silverlight is basically a partial page. If you choose to&amp;nbsp;use an &amp;nbsp;asp.net mvc&amp;nbsp;you can choose asp.net web project web application. In Silverlight you can use&amp;nbsp;controls&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lets take buttons(user controls) &amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;example than can be applied accross the&amp;nbsp;application &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;which can be&amp;nbsp;applied over multiple pages..... &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;here is a great example of a partial page(believe me it is amazing!!! &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://technologyopinion.com/Default.aspx"&gt;http://technologyopinion.com/Default.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3214987.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:04:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3214987</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3214987.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3214987</wfw:commentRss><description>i still havent got this to work. when i try to get the silverlight app to my usual webproject it wont show the silverlight upload.. anybody got any tip on how to interact silverlight to a non silverapp project (regual web project asp.net ofcause)&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3195512.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 07:12:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3195512</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3195512.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3195512</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i cant make any silverlight to work in my current project. i tried this upload that seem to be very suited for my need but still i cant get no upload to show.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://silverlightuploader.codeplex.com/" target="_blank"&gt;http://silverlightuploader.codeplex.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;do i need to add some kinda scriptmanager or something to make it work because im not runing a silverlight project? and in this example i cant figure how they use the&amp;nbsp; .xap file?? its like they dont ask for it..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;pls help a silverlight neebie out.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3175037.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:15:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3175037</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3175037.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3175037</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/fan/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;qwe123kids:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;U can Download the Sorce code from Link&amp;nbsp; mention above...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Include of .xapi file u will only Require Object tag..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;oh now i se.. so what i need to do is to Have a folder ClientBin and put the Fileupload_Cs.xap there? and then just add the silverlight to my .aspx page? but when i want to add the object to my database i handle all that in the receiver.ashx file then right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3175011.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:02:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3175011</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3175011.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3175011</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i was watching the video on &lt;a href="http://forums.asp.net/members/qwe123kids.aspx"&gt;qwe123kids&lt;/a&gt; link..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;the code used is the same as your c-sharpcorner link i think.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3175007.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:02:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3175007</guid><dc:creator>qwe123kids</dc:creator><author>qwe123kids</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3175007.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3175007</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;U can Download the Sorce code from Link&amp;nbsp; mention above...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Include of .xapi file u will only Require Object tag..&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3174999.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:59:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3174999</guid><dc:creator>mudassarkhan</dc:creator><author>mudassarkhan</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3174999.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3174999</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/fan/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Jedi302:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;thx for the links. the video is good but im still confused on some points.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. do i need to create a silverlight web application or can i use the silverlight on my current webproject?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. do i need to add the&amp;nbsp; Fileupload_Cs to my project?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you refer the links I have suggested? &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: To add a silverlight fileupload to my project?</title><link>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3174976.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:51:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">4c671506-2930-414c-a40b-8bf57ded5924:3174976</guid><dc:creator>Jedi302</dc:creator><author>Jedi302</author><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forums.asp.net/thread/3174976.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forums.asp.net/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1154&amp;PostID=3174976</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;thx for the links. the video is good but im still confused on some points.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. do i need to create a silverlight web application or can i use the silverlight on my current webproject?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. do i need to add the&amp;nbsp; Fileupload_Cs to my project?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>