Visual Web Developer 2008 Express

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:29:55 GMT

No, there are no interim updates available.

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

JAYHAWKER — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:16:39 GMT

Is there anything downloadable that is more recent that SP1 Beta?

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

BigFoppa — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:42:17 GMT

Yes, that is good news! Even though it is half way without Cut/Paste and Drag/Drop.

Even better news is that you demonstrate that our input matters and that you are willing to change priorities based on it.

See what M$ and manpower can do

/Big

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:16:18 GMT

Good news here http://blogs.msdn.com/webdevtools/archive/2008/06/12/multiple-control-selection-in-visual-studio-2008-sp1-rtm.aspx

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

JAYHAWKER — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:30:24 GMT

I am alt a loss for how to select multiple controls. Is there not a way to select several controls, whether you just want to copy them to a nother form, or align them. How can it be simpler to do this using a style set. I am very intested in learning it myself.

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

kraznodar — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:02:08 GMT

While I have serious issues with many things Microsoft does, I really don't think this is the proper place for Visual Studio bashing and general snivveling. There are a couple of other forums for that. This is pretty harsh treatment of a guy that tried to be nice and answer a question. Keep the ranting confined to the proper place please. Microsoft got horrible grief for not being W3C compliant and when they make a real effort to fix it they get grief for that instead. Microsoft does not control the W3C so rant about CSS on the W3C forums please.

PS. jkourany, what controls do you need to set mass properties for? Any style set to controls is done through classes in the stylesheet so what is left? Please give me an example if you would be so kind because if I've been doing things the hard way I'd like to fix how I do things.

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

jkourany — Sun, 25 May 2008 18:17:44 GMT

1. To lunch a product like Visual Studio 2008, with a user interface designer that does NOT support multiple control selection to set common properties, etc., is foolish. I believe this to be a GREAT BUG, as there is no purpose for the alginment & sizing toolbar. This introduces an important LACK of productivy and it should be provided as a Hotfix as soon as possible.

2. I have tried to use CSS relative positioning within various panel controls, including ASP:Panel and ASPxPanel, and using the IDE to drop-in controls and drag them to position them inside is buggy. I have to try two or three time to get it right.

3. More on CSS positioning. Contrary to many "CSS positioning" extremists, I, as many like me around the world, strongly believe that the best solution to handle web page layout is a balance between CSS layout and what I call "relative absolute positionning" (what was previously possible by dropping a DIV using flow layout, but setting the DIV ms_positionning="GridLayout"), so all controls inside de DIV would be positionned relative to the position of the DIV but with absolute positionning inside of it.). We need to be able to use absolute positionning relative to the coordinates of a container control like a panel or DIV. CSS positionning and table layout DO NOT provide an easy, fast, and most of all PRODUCTIVE way to get a form with many input controls properly aligned and positionned as the programmer intends. Both CSS and table layout are great, and definitely needed, but is NOT the fix-all solution. Absolute positionning of children controls relative to their container control is something this technology is LACKING, and NEEDED to make this a much more productive developement environment. I think it would be very easy for CSS to add an absolute positionning relative to the container and it would greatly improve the technology and at the same time make it standard. One is the complement of the other, that way you can quickly use flow layout and/or table layout with DIV/Panels to structure the page and is some panels where input forms are needed use absolute positionning relative to the container to que controls always aligned the way they were intended.

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

crabpot8 — Sat, 24 May 2008 18:18:53 GMT

Mikhail,

Which feature is planned for VS10, just curious? Also, is there a wiki where we can all throw our two cents in towards features we would like to see or think are important?

crab

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

JAYHAWKER — Sat, 24 May 2008 14:13:54 GMT

I have added the style = "display:block" attribute to a control. But what does this doe for me. what downside is there for creating the form in an earlier version of VS, and then upgrading it to 2008?

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

Xaq — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:47:56 GMT

That's insane, why is there a toolbar made just for that feature? I think somebody fell asleep when they should have been programming...

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:53:16 GMT

There was no particilar decision to remove the feature or anything anong these lines. VS 2008 designer has nothing in common with VS 2005 one. 2005 was based on IE while 2008 is based on former FrontPage (as is Expression Web). 2008 designer never had this functionality. Adding new feature simply did not fit into the schedule.

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

JesusReagan — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:08:58 GMT

yes, the decision to not support multiple selection of controls is just plain idiotic. Don't know about the rest of you, but I use that capability *heavily*. For the love of Pete, who made that bone-headed decision?

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:52:53 GMT

Add style="display:block" attribute to the element.

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

ckerscher — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:50:09 GMT

First thank you so much for suppling answers to our many questions.

In your last response to this thread you speak of adding display:block to the inline style. I would appreciate so much if you would explain more in detail how to do that.

Thank you,

Charlie

Re: How do I select multiple controls in VWD 2008

Mikhail Arkhipov (MSFT) — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:29:59 GMT

Try adding display:block to the label inline style.