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Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

CoolMints — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:29:49 GMT

I have attempted a solution which you can view in this post.

Regards,

Ruben

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

Edgardo — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:48:34 GMT

ScottGu:

I believe the next Atlas CTP will allow you to embed the generated markup as straight javascript instead of XML-script -- which would cause it to validate clean with any XHTML validator.

Note that the markup today is technically XHTML compliant. The issue is that the online validators aren't handling the case where you have a <script> tag with an unknown language element in it.

Hope this helps,

Scott

This is great, looking forward to try it :)

Zifiglio:

hi, as scott suggested, wrapping up the markup xml contained within the xml-script block does the trick. For eg. The follow validates xhtml strict against the w3c validator found here : http://validator.w3.org

scott, is this something that will make it into atlas, that is wrapping up the markup within CDATA blocks :o

1    
2    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
3    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" lang="en-US">
4    <head>
5    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
6    
7    <meta name="keywords" content="Asp.net, AsyncUI.net" />
8    
9    <title>www.asyncui.net test page</title>
10   </head>
11   
12   <body> 
13   <script type="text/xml-script">
14   // <![CDATA[
15   "http://schemas.microsoft.com/xml-script/2005">
16     <components />
17   </page>
18   // ]]>
19   </script>
20   </body>
21   </html>

Already tried that with a Response filter, adding CDATA makes it pass the validator but Atlas no longer works.

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

Zifiglio — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:47:32 GMT

scott, is this something that will make it into atlas, that is wrapping up the markup within CDATA blocks :o

1    
2    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
3    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" lang="en-US">
4    <head>
5    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
6    
7    <meta name="keywords" content="Asp.net, AsyncUI.net" />
8    
9    <title>www.asyncui.net test page</title>
10   </head>
11   
12   <body> 
13   <script type="text/xml-script">
14   // <![CDATA[
15   "http://schemas.microsoft.com/xml-script/2005">
16     <components />
17   </page>
18   // ]]>
19   </script>
20   </body>
21   </html>

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

orphicfireball — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:14:12 GMT

That would be great!

I know all this extra effort to accomodate the W3 Validator is a little superfluous, and I understand that (especially when the markup is actually valid), but there are some other people who take that thing's results very seriously.

I'm glad to see that attention is being given to this though. I was just afraid that Atlas was too far a long to make that big of change.

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

ScottGu — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:59:29 GMT

I believe the next Atlas CTP will allow you to embed the generated markup as straight javascript instead of XML-script -- which would cause it to validate clean with any XHTML validator.

Note that the markup today is technically XHTML compliant. The issue is that the online validators aren't handling the case where you have a <script> tag with an unknown language element in it.

Hope this helps,

Scott

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

orphicfireball — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:22:49 GMT

It's the same. I tried a lot of things, but I couldn't really get it to work. I thought that since the namespace is xmlns:script="http://schemas.microsoft.com/xml-script/2005" if I prefixed everything with "script", like <script:pageRequestManager...>. It might validate better, but it didn't help.

The only approach I can think of is sending a different page to the validator, but that really is cheating anyway. I just wish this would validate, since I could get my pages to validate so nicely before. It really seemed that asp.net got a lot better in this respect with asp.net 2.0, but now atlas seems a step backwards in compliance.

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

DomenicDenicola — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 06:47:44 GMT

How about the July CTP?

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

orphicfireball — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:22:24 GMT

No it is not, I'm trying to figure out how to workaround this same problem.

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

DomenicDenicola — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:01:10 GMT

Is this fixed in the June CTP?

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

dotnetshadow — Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:00:35 GMT

I tried wrapping CDATA and comments around the necessary tags, although this helped with validatiing against the W3C validator, a more serious problem occurred that when the comments or CDATA was included the actual ajax stopped funcitoning because it caused a script error since

Regards Dotnetshadow

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

ZAiNT — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:11:39 GMT

Will this be fixed in a coming release?

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

dotnetshadow — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:14:34 GMT

I'm not too sure what you mean since I'm new to XHTML could you give me an example of what you mean? Also the code is generated by microsoft when it renders the page do you mean override the render mode so that u can wrap a CDATA tag around the script tag?

Regards Dotnetshadow

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

ScottGu — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:50:25 GMT

I haven't tried this, but I wonder if you could put CDATA sections in? I think that is technically the XHTML way to wrap code in script blocks.

Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

dotnetshadow — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:23:32 GMT

I think the solution here would be to able to inject comment tags so that w3c validator ignores this section


        <script type="text/xml-script">

</script>

I tried this and it validates now how do I put the comments in mmmm,....

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Re: Atlas and XHTML compliant?

dotnetshadow — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:09:16 GMT

Thanks for replying scott,

I realised it is technically XHTML valid but the problem is that when I try against the validator it fails ... so in terms of checking for validaiton what can be done? Does this mean we can't validate with an Atlas project? Anyone know of a good XHTML Validator tha can ignore javascript?

Regards DotnetShadow