Saw that report. The results were interesting, and lay down with some internal testing we have been doing. We hadn't gotten to the Win.Net versions yet, but the Win2K/Net performance has been impressive. What it also means that we were oversold alot of hardware to make internal J2EE solutions work. No wonder Sun needs 64+ cpu's. Of course the debate from the J2EE folks now is all around how poor EJBs are, and it should have been done this way or that. First time around it was all about Stored Procs vs non stored procs. I'm curious what it will take to make those folks happy.