[Jody] so ... don't worry about it - no one is going to judge you...

I second that notion Jody :)  Sometimes I look back at my old code (some of it not so old) and I cringe; for example we used a standard of Hungarian notation when I worked on a large Foxpro Team years back.   I took those prinicpals for naming conventions into .NET (great for intellisence for logical grouping) as I launched my independent contracting career.  I've only abandoned hungarian notation in the last few months...

The great thing about large teams is we learn from each other...

On that note - hope to see you come onboard as a developer for the CodePlex project - we're online now!!

Your tip saved me literally "months" of work - CodePlex uses Team Foundation Server.  I downloaded the "free" Visual Studio Team Explorer, Logged into the system, uploaded the code into the VSTS Source control and it magically showed up on the Source Code page!!  I had no idea that the preliminary preparations for upload (checking files in and out) would result in transactions on the Source Code page or I would have documented what I was doing :O

If you'll go to Discussions | Project Management Forum | Team Explorer you'll find more details (to include the download link and a tip to extract Team System Explorer from the .img file).

Question for you guys:

There is a Developer Forum and Conversion Tasks and Goals section on the CASK site - not real sure there is a real distinction between the two???  Currently I put the list Jody emailed me and my own list into Conversion Tasks and Goals.   I notice another site just had the Developer Forum.

I want to see if they can add an FAQ Section for us (so folks don't have to sift through many threads for answers - some of them perhaps wrong).   Do we need a "Conversion Tasks and Goals" goals section - the developer forum notes that it is for "For discussing future designs, new features as well as the current imp... "

 

 

 

 

 

 

songless:

Hey Bill,
  take a look to CodePlex ( http://www.codeplex.com/ ) . Many Microsoft projects ( like Atlas ) are being developed through this website and seems like any developer can open his own project.
I suppose it is something similar to SourceForge but done by Microsoft.

Your idea about using CVS through Visual Studio with a C++ wrapper sounds pretty complicated, there are add-ins for that.
And now Subversion is preferred over CVS, in fact SourceForge has updated all the projects to Subversion. So you can open the console, type svn -checkout http://sourceforge.net/anyproject and get all the latest sources.

But take a look to CodePlex, I think is just the solution you are looking for. And your project sounds very sweet :-)

Hmmm, I just noted that when you REPLY to a message thread it doesn't state who you are replying to so the community might not realize I was writing you SongLess - so I'll add this thread to clarify :)

Your tip saved me literally "months" of work - CodePlex uses Team Foundation Server.  I downloaded the "free" Visual Studio Team Explorer, Logged into the system, uploaded the code into the VSTS Source control and it magically showed up on the Source Code page!!  I had no idea that the preliminary preparations for upload (checking files in and out) would result in transactions on the Source Code page or I would have documented what I was doing :O

I added that forum becuase - developer forum should be about discussing actual code in play.  The Goals forum is to establish what needs to be honed in for the criteria of establishing milestones (at least in terms of rock solid fixes, features, etc).  Once the list is generated - then that should be upon which people get assigned work items....Kinda like walking into a clients office to discuss a project - you do not walk in immediately discussing coding - more or less the goal is to establish the priorities and expectations.  Once the items are 'approved' then the forum becomes locked and no additional features or such are added in ...  otherwise this project will take longer than it has for me to finish my Sites-Easy project becuase it will never be done ... and while I personally do not mind it as I am adding stuff all the the time - in a group project where there are many - its not advisable and will wear on morale and effectiveness.

 

 

 

jodywbcb:

I added that forum becuase - developer forum should be about discussing actual code in play.  The Goals forum is to establish what needs to be honed in for the criteria of establishing milestones (at least in terms of rock solid fixes, features, etc).  Once the list is generated - then that should be upon which people get assigned work items....Kinda like walking into a clients office to discuss a project - you do not walk in immediately discussing coding - more or less the goal is to establish the priorities and expectations.  Once the items are 'approved' then the forum becomes locked and no additional features or such are added in ...  otherwise this project will take longer than it has for me to finish my Sites-Easy project becuase it will never be done ... and while I personally do not mind it as I am adding stuff all the the time - in a group project where there are many - its not advisable and will wear on morale and effectiveness.

Oooo - I thought they added it by default.   Great idea as "scope creep" has been the death of many projects...  The problem (with their design) is that you only see approximately 11/12 words of the description; on the surface they appear to be the same.   

I primarily went with the headers and "Conversion Tasks and Goals" seemed appropriate to drop our lists into.  When done I wondered if I put items in the wrong forum because "Developer Forum" suggest "future designs, new features as well as the current imp...".  Do I need to move these items?

 When I went [Edit Forum] it was much clearer --- guess I'll have to look for their issue tracker ;)

Developer Forum	For discussing future designs, new features as well as the current implementation approach. Ask design questions and suggest improvements here.
Project Management Forum	For discussing project logistics, operation and the team. Ask questions about the project in general here.
User Forum	For general assistance with the software. Ask questions about using the project here.
Conversion Tasks and Goals	Discussions of the tasks and goals that will define the CASK. Once these have been agreed upon they will be work items that must be completed before officially releasing CASK as a completed project.

The wiki is pretty simple and powerful -> [my new wiki page] is all that is required to create a new wiki page - I saw how other sites where doing their FAQ and did the same (on the home page).

I am now registered in Codeplex.com and the project site looks very cool, this weekend I'll try the Team Foundation Explorer and take a look to the Tasks and Goals you put in the site.

I'll try to finish my website that is consuming me too much time, Jody I am looking your caching MOD and man, today I was writing a VERY similar one. So I'll try it, thanks ! Your site is full of interesting articles, I used to visit it with frecuence some months ago but lately I forgot about the cool stuff there are.
I read too the pagination problem and your mod.

And about the project name, Community Advanced Starter Kit, don't you think is many responsability to drive a project with the word Advanced on it ? :-)
People will be waiting something really great !

songless:

I am now registered in Codeplex.com and the project site looks very cool, this weekend I'll try the Team Foundation Explorer and take a look to the Tasks and Goals you put in the site.

I'll try to finish my website that is consuming me too much time, Jody I am looking your caching MOD and man, today I was writing a VERY similar one. So I'll try it, thanks ! Your site is full of interesting articles, I used to visit it with frecuence some months ago but lately I forgot about the cool stuff there are.
I read too the pagination problem and your mod.

And about the project name, Community Advanced Starter Kit, don't you think is many responsability to drive a project with the word Advanced on it ? :-)
People will be waiting something really great !

We have the team that won't disappoint them!!!   

 

songless:

I am now registered in Codeplex.com and the project site looks very cool, this weekend I'll try the Team Foundation Explorer

Could you please document the process from start to finish (as you do it)?   I wish I had thought of it because it will be of great value to those who have not used source control before.   We can publish your information in a wiki document.

If you have any problems getting up and running please let me know and we'll get you through it.   Some steps that I can remember follow:

• Download the "Free" Team System Explorer from referenced link (Discussions | Project Management forum | Team Explorer | provided link)
• Download the shareware UltralSO product (link on same thread above) and extract .img file to an applicable folder on your system.
• Run the autostart application and install Team Explorer
• Run Visual Studio 2005
• Click on Tools | Options |  Source Control
• On the combo dropdown list select "Visual Studio Team Foundation Server"
• Click on OK
• Click on View
• Select Team Explorer
• Here is where I can't remember the exact steps to document the process.  BUT,  I'll take a stab at it....  The sequence may vary
• Download the most recent version of code from the Source Code links
• If you'll log into the CodePlex site and go to our projects "Source Code" tab you should see the Team Foundation Server Name, Port number, Protocal, and Username that you will require to access the code on the top right hand panel (you have to be logged in; I've added you as a developer).  Note: Your password will be your CodePlex password.
• Open the solution in Visual Source Safe - if you are not already logged in you will be asked to log in.
• Right click on solution and select "Get Latest Version"
• STRONG SUGGESTION
  - Right click on your Web.Config and remove the Readonly attribute.  You can now edit the connection string without it being under source control - for obvious reasons you do not want to check in your SQL Server connection string (this will make it harder to do so).
  - I moved my CommunityCSK connectionstring into the Machine.Config file.   This way all I have to do is rename CommunityCSK to Community2CSK and the application will always run.  If I do another Get Latest version and overwrite my web.config I don't have to keep inputting this string.

If you'll then go to the Releases tab

• Click on Planned Releases
• Click on 1.0 Beta
• Download the CASK Manual Installation steps

You should be able to get the CASK up and running  - if you can't following these steps please revise them so I can add this to your wiki setup instructions for developers.

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

Another Tip Songless...

I didn't know that when I checked something in that the comments would display on the main site's source page!   I was doing some preliminary cleanup and moving things where they need to be and was surprised to find everytime I checked something in there was a blank line entry in the source code tab (dough!).

Comment every check-in with the notion that folks will be seeing it ;)

 

Hi, David,

 I'd like to have your VB.Net version of GCN1.1 with ASP.NET2.0 conversion and bug-fixed.

Thanks,

 Jason

jiqiu@hotmail.com

I need your help with getting the images that are stored within the "/Communities/Common/...." or "/Admin/.." to show. My website was fully functioning at 1.0 with having .gif, .jpg, and .jpeg mapping in IIS. I upgraded to GCN 1.1 and all my database images are displaying correctly but now all my locally stored images aren't such as discussion images, banner images, navicon, etc.. I double checked and the web.config in the Communities folder does have the remove verb command which I assumed was so that it would ignore the mapping and look for the files locally. Please assist.

Here is a link to my current website to show you the locally stored images not properly displaying: http://www.sandiegosurfladies.com

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated as I can't seem to figure out.

One other thing to note is that I did copy over my modified skin and css but that is it. I couldn't find anything in there that would have made it to break.

Paola