today, i noticed that three of my answers were unmarked ... of course, we still have no system in place to notify forums.asp.net members when their posts are marked/unmarked; likewise the marker/unmarker is never identified.
"If you wish to provide additional information to your reply before it has been responded to, please use the Edit button on your original reply rather than making an additional post."
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(a) my posts were 14 minutes apart
(b) i've never since 2002 07 02 heard of such a rule
(c) how could i possibly know whether the O.P. or anyone else intends to reply?
(d) messages that are UNREAD by a member are highlighted for that member
(e) AFAIK, messages that have been READ by a member are
NOT re-highlighted for that member should they be subsequently edited and/or marked and/or unmarked
(f) when moderators delete messages, frequently valuable content is lost
imho, the moderator has erred in this action.
Please note: i do thank the moderatro for taking the time to merge the two replies so that the content was not lost.
I also thank all moderators for the valuable volunteer work that they do for all members of forums.asp.net, myself included.
To all members, i wish you a safe, happy, and healthy holiday season.
--gerry
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Making a series of replies to the same question could be seen as an attempt to take unfair advantage of the community recognition programme, where 2 points are awarded for each answer. If subsequent replies are posted as follow-ups to further questions
from the OP, that's fair enough. However, providing answers as a series of posts is not. In the case you referenced, you provided additional information in a separate post when you could have added it to your original post using the Edit feature. There was
no need to add to your post tally (and points) in that instance.
Mike, over the last few years, you've gotten to know me ... if it were about grabbing points, i'd simply write replies to as many different messages as i could possibly answer.
i'm guessing that simply by using Google, i could provide a plausible answer to quite a few questions.
Many times my answer is the best answer but the O.P. or someone else marks a different reply; i only alert moderators in cases like that where the marked answer is blatantly wrong, not for the points but because it's important to me that the marked answer
be one that is correct.
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i've clearly given valid, rational reasons in my O.P. for keeping separate answers separate.
FWIW, why not change* the scoring system? ... i'd be comfortable with consecutive replies by the same member not being scored.
* there is a precedent for such a change imho ... the O.P. no longer gets points for replying to her/his own posts.
Sometimes, when i think the O.P. will benefit more from three short replies than one long one, i do that ... in such a case, i'd not object to getting only two points for three consecutive replies.
Mike, it's not about the points ... many a time, i've written very long replies because i felt that such replies were appropriate.
i care about the quality of my replies and am thrilled when a forums.asp.net all-star tells me "compared to others, [my] replies for op are always detailed and exact, many members benefit".
Happy Holidays! Thank you for your volunteer efforts!
Best regards,
Gerry
B-) Please help me by completing my school survey about computer programmers on my website. Thank you!!! Gerry Lowry +1 705-429-7550 wasaga beach, ontario, canada
That is why I used emphasis on the word "could" in my reply. However, if we allow one person to break their answer down into multiple posts, then others will justify that as an excuse to do the same, when it may well be "about the points". It's the same
as allowing one off-topic question or necropost (both of which have been subjects of complaints from you about a heavy-handed approach to moderation before). They undoubtedly encourage others.
If you edit an existing post, the thread should appear unread to participants. If you do not see that as the case, you should flag that as a potential regression bug.
others will justify that as an excuse to do the same, when it may well be "about the points"
good point (no pun intended)
Mikesdotnetting
If you edit an existing post, the thread should appear unread to participants.
if this is the case, then i can live with that.
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in a minute, as a test, i'm going to edit an old thread ... i'm the O.P. of that thread.
given that i'm editing it, likely it will still appear read to me ... i'm wondering if you and the other participants will see it as
unread ...
i'm also wondering if it will bubble to the top.
--gerry
B-) Please help me by completing my school survey about computer programmers on my website. Thank you!!! Gerry Lowry +1 705-429-7550 wasaga beach, ontario, canada
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imho, a moderator deleted this post inappropriately ... http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/5243876.a...
Dec 23, 2012 05:01 PM|LINK
i've been a member since 2002 07 02 ...
i've posted and/or replied over 8000 times
c. 12.5% of my posts have been marked as answeres
today, i noticed that three of my answers were unmarked ... of course, we still have no system in place to notify forums.asp.net members when their posts are marked/unmarked; likewise the marker/unmarker is never identified.
a post mine was submitted as a reply to the following thread: http://forums.asp.net/thread/5243864.aspx
http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/5243876.aspx/1?Re+Get+the+last+Sunday+of+a+month
Reason Given:
"If you wish to provide additional information to your reply before it has been responded to, please use the Edit button on your original reply rather than making an additional post."
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(a) my posts were 14 minutes apart
(b) i've never since 2002 07 02 heard of such a rule
(c) how could i possibly know whether the O.P. or anyone else intends to reply?
(d) messages that are UNREAD by a member are highlighted for that member
(e) AFAIK, messages that have been READ by a member are NOT re-highlighted for that member should they be subsequently edited and/or marked and/or unmarked
(f) when moderators delete messages, frequently valuable content is lost
imho, the moderator has erred in this action.
Please note: i do thank the moderatro for taking the time to merge the two replies so that the content was not lost.
I also thank all moderators for the valuable volunteer work that they do for all members of forums.asp.net, myself included.
To all members, i wish you a safe, happy, and healthy holiday season.
--gerry
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Re: imho, a moderator deleted this post inappropriately ... http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/52438...
Dec 23, 2012 08:47 PM|LINK
Making a series of replies to the same question could be seen as an attempt to take unfair advantage of the community recognition programme, where 2 points are awarded for each answer. If subsequent replies are posted as follow-ups to further questions from the OP, that's fair enough. However, providing answers as a series of posts is not. In the case you referenced, you provided additional information in a separate post when you could have added it to your original post using the Edit feature. There was no need to add to your post tally (and points) in that instance.
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Re: imho, a moderator deleted this post inappropriately ... http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/52438...
Dec 23, 2012 09:48 PM|LINK
@ Mikesdotnetting
Mike, over the last few years, you've gotten to know me ... if it were about grabbing points, i'd simply write replies to as many different messages as i could possibly answer.
i'm guessing that simply by using Google, i could provide a plausible answer to quite a few questions.
Many times my answer is the best answer but the O.P. or someone else marks a different reply; i only alert moderators in cases like that where the marked answer is blatantly wrong, not for the points but because it's important to me that the marked answer be one that is correct.
MORE INFORMATION
i've clearly given valid, rational reasons in my O.P. for keeping separate answers separate.
FWIW, why not change* the scoring system? ... i'd be comfortable with consecutive replies by the same member not being scored.
* there is a precedent for such a change imho ... the O.P. no longer gets points for replying to her/his own posts.
Sometimes, when i think the O.P. will benefit more from three short replies than one long one, i do that ... in such a case, i'd not object to getting only two points for three consecutive replies.
Mike, it's not about the points ... many a time, i've written very long replies because i felt that such replies were appropriate.
i care about the quality of my replies and am thrilled when a forums.asp.net all-star tells me "compared to others, [my] replies for op are always detailed and exact, many members benefit".
Happy Holidays! Thank you for your volunteer efforts!
Best regards,
Gerry
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Re: imho, a moderator deleted this post inappropriately ... http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/52438...
Dec 24, 2012 04:37 AM|LINK
That is why I used emphasis on the word "could" in my reply. However, if we allow one person to break their answer down into multiple posts, then others will justify that as an excuse to do the same, when it may well be "about the points". It's the same as allowing one off-topic question or necropost (both of which have been subjects of complaints from you about a heavy-handed approach to moderation before). They undoubtedly encourage others.
If you edit an existing post, the thread should appear unread to participants. If you do not see that as the case, you should flag that as a potential regression bug.
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Re: imho, a moderator deleted this post inappropriately ... http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/52438...
Dec 24, 2012 02:34 PM|LINK
@ Mikesdotnetting
good point (no pun intended)
if this is the case, then i can live with that.
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in a minute, as a test, i'm going to edit an old thread ... i'm the O.P. of that thread.
given that i'm editing it, likely it will still appear read to me ... i'm wondering if you and the other participants will see it as unread ...
i'm also wondering if it will bubble to the top.
--gerry
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Re: imho, a moderator deleted this post inappropriately ... http://forums.asp.net/p/1866909/52438...
Dec 24, 2012 03:02 PM|LINK
Other members will see your edited post as "unread" (bolded) even if they saw it as "read" prior to your edit.