see http://forums.asp.net/p/1444774/3282351.aspx#3282351

It appears that you copied and pasted the HTML from another page which contained relative URLs. The resulting link wouldn't work when you pasted it into a different page than which the page you copied. You are welcome to fix the links in your post by editing it.

Hello Kevin ~~ that is interesting.  I've copied links for months from that page and never had this problem before.

As an experiment, I am going to copy some into *this* reply to see what happens:

From http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/#MVC_Overview:

#1 | Create a Movie Database Application in 15 Minutes with ASP.NET MVC         View in VB or C#

#2 | ASP.NET MVC Overview                                                  View in VB or C#

#3 | Understanding the ASP.NET MVC Execution Process      View in VB or C#

#4 | Understanding Models, Views, and Controllers              View in VB or C#

#12 | ASP.NET MVC Views Overview                                      View in VB or C#

#13 | Creating Custom HTML Helpers                                    View in VB or C#

#14 | Displaying a Table of Database Data                            View in VB or C#

#15 | Using the TagBuilder Class to Build HTML Helpers        View in VB or C# 

c# #12 is http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-04-cs.aspx

c# #13 is http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-09-cs.aspx

c# #14 is http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-11-cs.aspx

c# #15 is http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-35-cs.aspx

at http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/#MVC_Overview, if I mouse over the above four links, I see them as shown immediately above.

I'm going to post this and see what happens.

Back in one minute .........

here (already referred to in this thread) copy is bad:

http://forums.asp.net/p/1444774/3282351.aspx

Here are similar posts where the copied links are okay:

http://forums.asp.net/t/1435949.aspx

#17 | Creating Model Classes with LINQ to SQL View in VB or C#

Even above, the *new* editor lost the link that I copied in from my Windows Mail message.

I am going to copy it again here:

again, in my preceding reply, the link that worked from my second Windows Mail message is broken:

#15 | Using the TagBuilder Class to Build HTML HelpersView in VB or C#

C# should be a link but it is not!

gerrylowry:

CONCLUSION:

Since Windows Mail copies a link that works, and since the *old* editor also copies links that work, and since it is highly desirable that an editor is "smart enough" to copy links that work, then the *new* editor has BUGGY behaviour that needs to be corrected in a timely fashion

I have drawn a different conclusion.

::Since Windows Mail copies a link that works

Comparing a javascript editor to a windows editor is one of those apples and oranges comparisons.  What can be done in a windows app, is rarely the same for javascript.  With javascript, there is only very limited clipboard access.  with a windows app, there is additional info available from the clipboard to aid in the copy/paste process.

::since the *old* editor also copies links that work

The editor does not perform the copy.  The browser performs the copy.  The editor accesses what was copied and performs the paste.  This might seem like a somewhat pedantic statement, but it is a relevant distinction as to what is happening.  The paste can only occur based on what was copied by the browser. Additionally, if you wish to test the *old* 2.x version of the editor, you will find it still running at the Silverlight forums and the IIS forums.  I checked the editor at those sites and the paste behaviour that you are complaining of exists at both of those sites.  So it seems that the new editor behaves the same as the old editor in this regard.  

::since it is highly desirable that an editor is "smart enough" to copy links that work

As mentioned, the editor does not do the "copy".  The editor only does the paste.  When you copy a relative link from the IE browser, that relative link is what gets copied to the clipboard.  Or more specifically, this is what lands on the clipboard:

Version:1.0
StartHTML:000000192
EndHTML:000003738
StartFragment:000003132
EndFragment:000003623
StartSelection:000003449
EndSelection:000003623
SourceURL:http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">

<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><HEAD><TITLE>ASP.NET MVC Tutorials : The Official Microsoft ASP.NET Site</TITLE>
<SCRIPT language=javascript>
function handleJavascriptError(msg, uri, linenumber)
{ return true; }
window.onerror = handleJavascriptError;
</SCRIPT>
<LINK rel="shortcut icon" href="/App_Themes/Standard/i/favicon.ico"><LINK 
rel=stylesheet type=text/css href="/PageGate/style/PageGate.css" media=screen>
<SCRIPT type=text/javascript src="/a/textAds.js"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript src="/EmailProtector.js"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript src="/PageGate/js/PageGate.js"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript 
src="/Silverlightplayer/js/Silverlight.js"></SCRIPT>
<!-- USER MENU -->
<SCRIPT type=text/javascript>
        
        function getAvatar(imgCtrl, imgSrc, enableAvatar) {
            if (enableAvatar == 'True') {
                imgCtrl.src = imgSrc;
            }
        }        
    </SCRIPT>
<LINK rel=stylesheet type=text/css 
href="../../App_Themes/Standard/css-print.css" media=print><LINK rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css href="../../App_Themes/Standard/Titan.css?d=031709" 
media="interactive, braille, emboss, handheld, projection, screen, tty, tv"><LINK 
title="ASP.NET <%# Container.Category.Title %>" rel=alternate 
type=application/rss+xml href="rss.ashx">
<STYLE type=text/css>
	.ctl00_HeaderContent_siteHeader_Navigation_0 { background-color:white;visibility:hidden;display:none;position:absolute;left:0px;top:0px; }
	.ctl00_HeaderContent_siteHeader_Navigation_1 { text-decoration:none; }
	.ctl00_HeaderContent_siteHeader_Navigation_2 {  }

</STYLE>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript charset=utf-8 
src="http://www.bing.com/DynamicScript.js?ver=1.02"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript charset=utf-8 
src="http://www.bing.com/JsonRequest.js?ver=1.02"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript charset=utf-8 
src="http://www.bing.com/WLUIPanel.js?ver=1.01"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript charset=utf-8 
src="http://www.bing.com/SearchBox/WLSearchBoxv11.js?ver=1.03"></SCRIPT>

<SCRIPT type=text/javascript charset=utf-8 
src="http://www.bing.com/SearchBox/searchboxresources.js?ver=1.02&market=en-us&charset=utf-8"></SCRIPT>
</HEAD>

<BODY 
onload="PageGate('/PageGate/checkcookie.html','/PageGate/installprompt.html');">

<FORM id=aspnetForm method=post 
action=http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/default.aspx#MVC_Overview>

<DIV id=content_container class=content_container>

<DIV class=columns_container>

<DIV class=columns_left>

<DIV class=columns_left_padding>

<DIV class=bucket_container>

<DIV class="bucket_content region_absminheight">

<DIV class=landing_page_group>

<DIV id=625 class="category_item  category_item_video">

<P><!--StartFragment--><A class=no_border 
onmouseover="Show(this,'Stephen Walther demonstrates how you can create a custom route constraint. We implement a simple custom constraint that prevents a route from being matched when a browser request is made from a remote computer.',160,-2,250)" 
onmouseout=Hide() href="tutorial-25-cs.aspx"><SPAN><STRONG>#8 | </STRONG>Creating a Custom Route 
Constraint</SPAN></A><SPAN>View in <A href="tutorial-25-vb.aspx">VB</A> or <A 
href="tutorial-25-cs.aspx">C#</A></SPAN><!--EndFragment--></P>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</DIV>
</FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>

from javascript, you cannot (to the best of my knowledge) access all of this clipboard information as you can with a windows app.  You can only see the fragment itself.  notice that in the fragment, there are only relative urls.  Without access to the clipboard's SourceURL attribute, you would not be able to reconstruct the full url.  So when you paste the fragment in this site's editor, you get relative urls as that is all that was accessible from the clipboard.

But...

Performing the exact same copy in the FireFox browser yields a slightly different result and this is what is found on the clipboard:

Version:0.9
StartHTML:00000151
EndHTML:00000734
StartFragment:00000185
EndFragment:00000698
SourceURL:http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/#MVC_Overview
<html><body>
<!--StartFragment--><a class="no_border" href="http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-24-cs.aspx" onmouseover="Show(this,'In this tutorial, Stephen Walther demonstrates how you can control how browser requests match routes by creating route constraints with regular expressions.',160,-2,250)" onmouseout="Hide()"><span><strong>#7 | </strong>Creating a Route Constraint</span></a><span>View in <a href="http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-24-vb.aspx">VB</a> or <a href="http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/tutorial-24-cs.aspx">C#</a></span><!--EndFragment-->
</body>
</html>

With FireFox, the links placed on the clipboard are absolute links.  Again, javascript can only "see" the fragment, but this time, the fragment contains absolute urls even though the page contained relative urls.  Pasting those links into this site's editor yields absolute urls that work just fine. 

The browser that you use to perform the copy operation is very relevant as to what can ultimately be pasted. And the paste results that i have seen for relative urls seem very consistent across the various javascript based editors such as freetextbox, tinymce (2.x and 3.x), the new ajax toolkit editor and even some commercial offerings...

So the only conclusion that i can draw is that:

a) you performed the copies that worked the way you wanted with a browser other than IE

or

b) the links that you copied that worked the way you wanted had at one time been absolute links and are now relative links

Please keep in mind that feedback topics like this should not be duplicated in other forums like the MVC forum.  The duplicate post you made in the MVC forum section for this issue created a bit of confusion because it is off-topic for that forum.  That off-topic duplicate was removed so that there would be just a single discussion thread on this bit of feedback regarding the sites editor.

Thanks

Hello Mike .... imo, (a) your analysis is incorrect and (b) you erred in removing the post from the MVC forum.  Let me explain.

(a)  you wrote in part:

         a) you performed the copies that worked the way you wanted with a browser other than IE
   or
         b) the links that you copied that worked the way you wanted had at one time been absolute links and are now relative links

• 99.9% of my 1300+ posts have been made with IE7, the majority with WinXP Pro SP3 followed by Vista Business SP1
• I doubt the links at http://www.asp.net/learn/mvc/ have been changed from absolute links to relative links
• the procedure that I have used very many times is the same; the results changed only with the *new* editor.  q.v.:

1. 2009-06-08, 3:46 AM http://forums.asp.net/t/1432452.aspx
2. 2009-03-26, 8:05 AM http://forums.asp.net/t/1402404.aspx

• others appear to have had similar success: http://forums.asp.net/t/1376699.aspx 2009-01-28, 2:16 AM
    * I say appear because I do not know how this post was created
• the same procedure that I have used very many times no longer works with the *new* editor
• someone at NeuDesic should imo report this as a BUG to the authors of their TinyMCE *new* editor

(b) Mike, I've posted often enough, probably more than many members to Feedback.

      The post that you removed from forums.asp.net MVC was put there on purpose and was clearly titled

                 "head's up: mvc tutorial links copied with the *new* editor may be ..."

      It was obviously (to me) not intended to be a feedback topic; it was a head's up.

      If you found it unclear, it would have be better to you to either clarify it yourself or ask for clarification.

      Also, I spent a lot of my limited precious time clearly documenting the steps to reproduce for Eilon and you've blown that away too.  You seem to blow things away far to quickly imo.

B-(

Gerry

here's another more recent example, probably from just before the switch to the *new* editor:

http://forums.asp.net/t/1437691.aspx   2009-06-19, 1:11 PM